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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | Some say not to do it, but mine are fine, I have a 18 usg. with 3Indian dwarf puffers, and 2 bumblebee gobies. I also just added 2 clown gobies, and 1 cling-on goby (gobius negras) they are all doing fine sofar with a bit of teritory tail nips here and there. you could also put in a couple buttterfly gobies, im doin that right now. salinity at 0.012. I say go for it. you could try spotted puffers and the gobies i mentioned. Good luck. brac |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | What evwer mine are active and healthy as a horse. They are extremely hardy b |
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pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003 | Puffer p you are still young LOL, I'm 45 & I've been keeping fish for over 25 years! I also have 13 puffers. In case you didn't know, here's a link to my pufferfish website: http://www.thepufferforum.com Keeping puffers in conditions not meant for them, will shorten their lifespan! Just because you have had sucess keeping these FW fish in BW for a while, doesn't mean anything. Try telling that to the folks at http://www.dwarfpuffers.com The puffer I keep singly is the Congo puffer & will kill any other fish (including a much larger pleco) with it. [span class="edited"][Edited by pufferpunk 2004-08-12 22:21][/span] |
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puffer_archer Enthusiast Posts: 288 Kudos: 250 Votes: 4 Registered: 20-Jul-2004 | You could keep 2 archerfish in the tank along with some Purple Spotted Gudgeons (gobies). The two fishes get along great. Both do not get very big, supposedly archers can reach a foot, but I've never seen one over six inches. You could lower the water slightly and put branches of some form across the top for insects so that the archers could shoot them down |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | Thanks for your confirmation. bracguy |
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Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 | I've kept dwarf puffers and bumblebees in ~.007 for quite some time. Both fish look healthy and are active, no problems between them either. Good luck ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | I will let you know if this does not work for me. brac |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | My LFS sells there Dwarf Indians in a .007 tank... Something you should look into... b |
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pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003 | There is a lot of misinformation here. Dwarves are STRICTLY FW fish! I killed my 1st 2 (before I knew any better) by trying to put them in BW. No one is going to breed them in BW. A SG of 1.012 is extremely high for a FW fish. By forcing a FW fish to live in BW, you will weaken it's immune system & shorten it's lifespan. I have 3 F8s in a 29g, along with knight gobies & bumblebee gobies. They have been in there for quite a while, with no problems. I have tanks with just one puffer in them. 2 (of these particular species) would kill each other. Puffers are not people, they do not need friends. [span class="edited"][Edited by pufferpunk 2004-08-11 23:51][/span] |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | ...also you should always keep more than 1 puffer in a tank. b |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | Fig 8s would kill any added goby kim. |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | Some think that, but if the supplier breeds Indian Dwarfs in brackish, the the hearty little guys will be fine... Key word hearty. all puffers are. I keep a 0.012 sal. (hydrometer) brac |
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Kim Big Fish Posts: 327 Kudos: 436 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 | Dwarf puffers are freshwater! I would try figure 8's or one green spotted Kim |
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gartenzwerfe Big Fish Mrs. Racso To Be Posts: 375 Kudos: 628 Votes: 199 Registered: 20-Mar-2004 | In a couple months I may be getting a new aquarium. It will most likely be a 29 USg, 46 USg or 55 USg. For now let's pretend it's a 29. I definitely want some kind of goby and some kind of puffer. I'm completely open to suggestions, so have at it! I just want to get some ideas for now so that *if/when* I get it I have something to work with. Thanks |
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bracguy81 Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 53 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-May-2004 | Tell me why mine are alive... Puffer p you are still young, I have what I have and my tank is fine... Possibly you did not raise your sal. slowly. I assure you all will be ok. Also your aggressions could be because you do not have enough hiding, or territorial spot, in actuallity all brackish fish are quite territorial. Another reason is because you do not feed enough. try 2x frozen blood worms or brine or misis daily, do a 20% water change weekly, and give your fish attention and all will be fine. brac |
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pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003 | I would think the only way to tell would be to put into a larger tank & see if they grew to their normal size in the wild. My crickets eat ground dry dog food & oranges (to drink). I buy 1000 every 3 weeks. If you only buy a dozen or 2 at a time, you can get a small Critter Keeper & line the bottom with the ground dog food (I use the blender to grind) & an orange slice to drink. You are what you eat! |
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puffer_archer Enthusiast Posts: 288 Kudos: 250 Votes: 4 Registered: 20-Jul-2004 | Yeah, I've been feeding them crickets for some time now. I had never thought about gut loading them...what's the best thing to gut load them with? It wasn't until after I had them that I realized they could grow to a foot. Several websites I had looked at and the store I bought them from said 6 inches. :%) (I had not found this site at that time) Is there anyway to tell if they are stunted? They look very healthy, especially since I made the switch to marine salt as opposed to aquarium salt. |
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pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003 | They may well be stunted. Many fish will stunt in a tank that is too small for them. It's the only way for them to survive. Are they eating crickets? Are you gut-loading the crickets? |
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puffer_archer Enthusiast Posts: 288 Kudos: 250 Votes: 4 Registered: 20-Jul-2004 | It's a 29, the archers actually aren't going to be in there much longer. I know that I'm feeding them the correct diet but they do not seem to be growing. They've stayed the same 4-5 inches that they were when I got them. I hope I haven't stunted them... [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-08-15 11:49][/span] |
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pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003 | How big is the tank? Archers get extremely large (up to a foot) & need plenty of swimming room. F8s only get to 2 1/2-3". I would think there would be too much competition for food. Also, my PSGs ate any fish they could fit into their mouths. |
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