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AngelZoo Fish Addict Posts: 771 Kudos: 501 Votes: 1 Registered: 16-Dec-2003	Can some one PLEASE invent a gravel vac that works with SAND. Thank you
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003	All gravel vacs work with sand, you just hover over them to hoover :%). Then after scheduled maintence you just sift thru the sand to prevent anerobic pockets ....or get MTS to do it for you. That or using carefully placed powerheads use water movement to keep the substrate clean. ^_^ Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
AngelZoo Fish Addict Posts: 771 Kudos: 501 Votes: 1 Registered: 16-Dec-2003	It's still not the same, I want to be able to stick it into the sand like you would gravel, and get debris in corners or anything sigh.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
everweird Fingerling Posts: 43 Kudos: 75 Votes: 0 Registered: 12-Jul-2004	what kind of sand are you using? i have pool filter sand in my tanks and the gravel vac does just fine. maybe you need a more coarse sand so it won't be so easily vac'd.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Shannen Banned Posts: 1160 Kudos: 1686 Votes: 98 Registered: 17-Feb-2004	Angel, For the most part that really isn't needed. Sand packs down so hard that nothing really gets past the top layer. Doing what babel suggested is about all that is needed.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
AngelZoo Fish Addict Posts: 771 Kudos: 501 Votes: 1 Registered: 16-Dec-2003	I have the Tahitan Moon Sand, and it's a real pain in my butt.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003	I've never had anything except MTS and plant roots get under the sand....not sure how you're getting junk under the sand rather than staying on the surface. ^_^ Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Shannen Banned Posts: 1160 Kudos: 1686 Votes: 98 Registered: 17-Feb-2004	In that case, I'm stumped.. Sorry.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
freejoe Enthusiast Posts: 211 Kudos: 227 Votes: 756 Registered: 20-Aug-2003	you need to restrict the size of the hose you are using by partialy pinching it off or inserting something to it to restrict the flow The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an bacon and egg breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
AngelZoo Fish Addict Posts: 771 Kudos: 501 Votes: 1 Registered: 16-Dec-2003	I can't use my Python as it's orginially intended anymore, because it ruined my Britta filter. So I'm just using part of the hose and the gravel vac on the end, then using gravity to dump it into a bucket on the floor. It isn't very powerfull to suck up debris already, let alone to pinch the hose and restrict the flow even further. I have kulies who like to go sand diving and bring random plant/food/poop particle with them. I do stir the sand up, and I do hover my little gravel vac and wave it around, but there is still a trumendous amount of debis typically.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003	If you don't have an additional powerhead on the tank and the fish you have in there don't mind added current you might try one of the [link=small ACs]http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=27205;category_id=3863;pcid1=2181;pcid2=" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link] just to keep anything from settling and being pulled under by the loaches. ^_^ Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
AngelZoo Fish Addict Posts: 771 Kudos: 501 Votes: 1 Registered: 16-Dec-2003	Well I have those loaches, a CAE, A Honeycomb Tita, and Danio's. The others won't care, it's the Tita and the Plants I worry about.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58


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