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sand substrate, powerful filter, i have a tendancy to clean this tank alot

8 harlequin rasboras
4 amano shrimp
1 banjo catfish
8 kuhli loachs
1-2 dwarf gouramis

any problems?

You will have major issues with this tank it is way over stocked for a 10 gallon.

2 dwarf gouramis is a bad idea they tend to be agressive towards each other.

Kuhli loaches IMO dont belong in a 10 gallon and 8 is way too many.

I would suggest not going with a banjo cat as they are large for a 10 gallon.

Make sure to sift the sand often.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons

sorrry i was just goin by what numerous sites suggested, none of them thought a banjo would be to big for a ten perhaps we are talking about a different species? they also said that gouramis should be kept in pairs

Someone more experienced than me may say otherwise, but that sounds like a lot of fish for a 10G to me.

If you use the 1" per gallon rule (which I know is only a guide)the loaches alone would need a tank 4 times as big. The dwarf gouramis alone would be about right, however I've just put a male/female pair in a 33G and I find that I wouldn't want too much less room as the male can get aggresive and the female needs somewhere to get away from him.

I'd check out the profiles section of this site at the fish you're interested in and decide which you'd most like, and then re-work what you think could fit in. Or wait for someone who knows more than me to reply to this.

waldena,
I would suggest not using the 1" per gallon rule even as a guide as it is very inaccurate. ex. Oscars in a 20 gallon.

Resle, Is this tank a concept or is that your actual stock?

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons

The harlies alone would stock the tank. There may be room for a couple ottos...but that is it.

With that stocking you would need atleast a 20g tank.

A good stocking would be:
6 Harlequin rasboras
1 Dwarf gourami
4 amano shrimp
2 ottos

According to the fish profiles..a banjo cat can reach 5.2 inches...way too big for a 10g tank.

*Kristin*

well my reasoning was more then just size i factored in level of activity and amount of waste aswell both the banjo and kuhlis are very in active fish for most of the time they are buried in the sand or some small place, the harlequins school which makes more room because they stick close together, the shrimp clean the algae and have very little waste and dont move much. however i will remove the gouramis just to be safe

this is a somewhat concept, i do have 4 harlequins and 4 amano shrimp in there aswell as sand but thats it for now

The Kuhlis may be inactive and the Harlies may school but they all produce waste which is the reasoning for saying it is overstocked.

I had a 10g with 8 neons, 2 ottos, and a male betta. By looking at it, it was not overstocked. The neons produce little waste and stay together. The ottos are usually on the glass and the betta stays at the top alot. Well I did my monthly cleaning and every 2 week water changes, but fell behind a little. I started getting 3ppm of ammonia and 1ppm nitrite. I couldn't get it to go down in a week so I had to buy a bigger tank. I didn't want to lose any of my fish
I had it planted and changed out my filter media like I should have...but the crash still happened. I thankfully didn't lose any fish.

I understand where you are coming from with your stocking. I just know that a 10g is small and you may be able to keep up with regular water changes and cleaning, but eventually the waste buildup will cause a problem.

Up your Harlie school to 6 and add a couple ottos, if you have any algae. And call it a stocked tank. Save the other fish for a bigger tank. Good luck!

*Kristin*

frankly the whole reason for the tank was for the kuhlis the harlequins and and banjo were just a bonus, like i said i have a tendancy to clean this tank alot 50% water changes a week is the norm for this tank and it has a filter intended for a 20g. i got the shrimp because i thought they would be more gentle with the plans instead of sucking it off they clip it off. by the way this weird snail came with the plants, it has a rams horn style shell (though its hard to tell at such a small size) which is gold with black spots

resle,

With that stock I would recommend 50% water changes twice a week if not more. The tank is extremely overstocked especially with 8 kuhlis. Make sure to test often as a overstocked small tank can get out of hand very quickly. Make sure to especially pay attention to nitrate values.



"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons

ok how about this
6 harlequins
1 banjo
4 amano
6 kuhli

ok how about this
6 harlequins
1 banjo
4 amano
6 kuhli

No Banjo (WAY too big)
No Kuhlis (for reasons explained before, they get too big (4ins) and they are too active to be kept in a 10)

6 Harlequins
4 Amano
2 Ottos
MAYBE 1 Small Gourami/Male betta.

I agree you are much too overstocked. You may want to think about a bigger tank if you are that set on Kuhlis. Try upgrading to a 20g. If not you could do this:

6x rasboras
2x Ottos

-OR-
1x Dwarf Gourami
8x Neons
2x Ottos


I also agree that banjos/kuhlis get WAY too big for a 10g.

Inky

well this has taken an unpleasent turn from what i thought would be i honestly have never heard of kuhlis being to big for a ten. oh well i have always wanted a 20lg. if i had a 20g long would this be ok?

8...harlequins
4...amano shrimp
1...banjo
8...kuhlis
6...glass cats
2...turquoise rainbows

hmm im gonna have to re think my whole plan...

kuhlis are very in active fish for most of the time they are buried in the sand or some small place

That may be the case during the day but after hours is a different story One of the bonuses of working my odd-hours shift is I get to watch them after dark...they're definitely not inactive.

8...harlequins
4...amano shrimp
1...banjo
8...kuhlis
6...glass cats
2...turquoise rainbows

I'd personally say overstocked. The 1"/gal rule may not be accurate, but it's a good starting point. So you're asking about a 20 long:

8 harlies 16"
8 kuhlis 32"
1 banjo 5-6"
6 glasscats 18"
2 turquoise rainbows 19-12"

Rainbows like a lot of swimming space, even the profile here recommends a minimum 4ft tank.


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I agree, the rainbows will be too large and active for a 20L. They're also schooling, and you wouldn't be able to fit the school in there properly.

I think if you had
8 Harlies
6 Kuhlis
4 Amno
1 Dwarf Gourami

You would have a pretty nice stock for a 20 long

Yes and you could probably fit the Banjo cat in that stocking list.

*Kristin*

i just want to point out how i was bombarded with posts telling me that kuhlis get to big for a ten and yet i see replies recommending them for a tank of the same size more then ever a little inconsistant are we?

Kuhlis may be ok for a 10g...but only for maybe 4 of them. And with them I would only put some neons or harlies. Then the tank would be stocked. You wanted to put way too many fish in a 10g. That is why we had alot to say about it. I personally wouldn't recommend kuhlis for a 10g. I would say a 20g is minimum.

*Kristin*