FishProfiles.com Message Forums

Hey Sand How you doing? Three cats Lovely You will have to post a pic of them one day so we all can see. I did not get another cat after my sunny boy went to sleep. It was best i did not since i am allergic to them any way. P.S. Yes my rainbows are always darting around but i love em any ways

Last edited by tessa38uk at 13-Dec-2004 12:04

http://www.greenspersonalprinting.com/

Just to add a note here about the color and such. I have several Rainbow fry right now, and I have been following this thread in comparison with mine. I too have been anxious about what he turns out to be.

Your little guy there actually looks like one of the clutches of fry I have, that is about the same size to larger than yours. It is, believe it or not, the Millinium Rainbowfish fry. Mine have that same blue "sheen" on them right now, and are at about 1-2 cm right now. My breeders are F1 from wild, so my fry are F2.

I do not have any Turquoise so I have nothing to compare them to there. But your little guy does not look anything like my Parva, Blehri, Zig Zags, Parkinsonii, or Trifasciata fry that I presently have also about the same size.

_____________________________________________________________

There is always a bigger fish...

Any chance you could post a pic or two for comparison?

I just found this amazing pic of a turquoise. Makes me wonder?

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwrainbows&1103811101

I should note that I do not always see the blue hue. Often enough, he looks silver with a blackish band. I was struck by pictures of the Goldie River in a book I have and wondered about that too.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.fishprofiles.net/images/thumbnails/goldiei.jpg&imgrefurl=www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/category.asp%3Fid%3DOthers&h=34&w=80&sz=2&tbnid=wDflskDTPKsJ:&tbnh=29&tbnw=68&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMelanotaenia%2Bgoldiei%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Anyone see anything in my pic that would rule out either? Are there pics of this millenium rainbow?

I'll tell you that this little guy can really pack away the food. I don't know where it goes in that little tiny body. He easily whoofs down 8-10 Hikari Freeze Dried Bloodworms, then can eat about 15+ Hikari Micro Pellets a few hours later, followed by Freeze dried brine shrimp hours later. My bettas are only good for about 3-4 Hikari Betta Pellets.

Incidentally, I have this poll going if anyone following this thread would like to offer an opinion:

http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/51436.html?200412121951

Last edited by Cory_Di at 14-Dec-2004 09:52

Please check out the pics added to this link on January 9, 2005. Scroll down until you see the closeups. You can't miss them

[link=http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/52512.html?02163507]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/52512.html?02163507" style="COLOR: #C000C0[/link]

Aww nuts. I'm going to repost one of the pics here for comparison to previous pics, but I've posted a couple more in the poll thread.

I think it's possibly a M. Herbertaxelrodi. Also, look at the link for M. Herbertaxelrodi that I've provided in the poll post and view the two pics one up on the other, this one and the one in the link). If you look carefully at details in this one, there is a faint red showing in the tail fin - barely.


Cory_Di attached this image:


Last edited by Cory_Di at 09-Jan-2005 23:12[/font]

Nope - walked out with a bag of six healthy habrosus cories and they never went near my nephews house. The other bag had the duckweed and other plant.

Now, there is one other possibility. I do know that my nephew had, at least once, purchased guppies from the feeder tank for his frog. He insists it was only once, which would have been more like 6-8 weeks before I seen the larvae. Water temp was cool at about 68-70F so maybe it took longer to hatch. That store does have rainbows, but not near the guppy tank.

My nephew swears he never added any other fish to the tank or anything else that could have had tank water.

Go figure.

I'm attached to the l'il bugger. I'd like to find a way to keep him. If he grows slow enough, maybe he'll make it in the 20 long until I move. I'll just have to get up off my duff and move in the spring. That way, I can get that special long, low tank I've been wanting to transfer my ever expanding community into.

And another shot that is faded, but shows the fins better.

I should add that the vertical blue or black lines you see started coming in a couple weeks ago. First it was one, then a week later another, and now I see a third.

Cory_Di attached this image:


Last edited by Cory_Di at 24-Oct-2004 19:01[/font]

Yes the finnage is most certainly that of a rainbow. I would wait a few more weeks, but I would safe my first guess is that it is indeed a rainbow fish.

I would like to pin down what kind of rainbow it is as time goes by. I'll continue to add pics as he develops more color and features.

I'm hoping it is a dwarf variety so I can just add him to my 20 long community. He's never been around another fish. He hatched alone and has been raised alone. If he's bigger, I'll drive him to a quality shop and give him away.

Hey Diane... that really looks like a rainbow. I'd put money on it. Unfortunately, I'd put money on it being a standard sized rainbow, not a dwarf; it kinda looks like M. boesmani fry I've seen in the past.

If that's the case, you can probably keep him for a while in your 20 long as they don't really grow that quickly. Of course, you know where I think you should bring him.



Last edited by wolfie8113 at 24-Oct-2004 19:30

Agree with Wolfie. Definately a rainbow and looks like a Boesmani - the horizontal stripe at the back and the bars at the front, yellow eyes all scream Boesmani.

You should be asble to keep him a while they grow very slowly. Probably take him a year to hit 3-4 inches.

---

Some days you're the pigeon and some days you're the statue.

Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability.

If anyone has Bosemani fry pics at various stages, for comparison, please post them. Or, if you know of a web-link that shows them, post it here.

Thanks for the feedback people. I'd really like to upgrade my 20 long to a larger tank and just make a bigger community. Unfortunately, I have plans to move in the next year or two and was going to go to a new tank at that time when I have to transfer everyone. My 20 long is really at capacity with fish now .

I'd like to keep the l'il bugger, but my gut tells me it is best for him to be with others of his own kind so he or she can, well.... you know.

Pruess will be the beneficiary because I feel it is the healthiest pet store in southeast Michigan.

I'll continue to post pics as he develops. The only thing that surprises me is that his "nose" is so rounded and not more pointed. This is hard to see in the pics. You should see this little guy eat bloodworms (freeze dried or Hikari frozen). They just disappear and I have no idea where they go, but he eats and eats like there's no tomorrow. His mouth is very big for him to pull in the size food he does. I also now have him on Hikari Micro Pellets, as well.

Here Cory, I found you a website that might help:
http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/Mboesemani.html
It shows pictures of Boesmani rainbowfish fry.

Come Play Yahtzee With Me!
http://games.atari.com
Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames

Wow - this is sure going to remain a mystery to be solved over time. He doesn't quite look like that. However, I'll give the little tyke this much - he has a blue-green hue on his side in between those black bands or spots.

Time will tell.

It'll be interesting to find out what that dude turns out to be, considering that duckweed came from a tank with a bunch of tetras in it. Are you sure you didn't put anything else in that frog tank from one of the other bags, Diane? Preuss has a lot of rainbows all over the place in the store, but there weren't any in that display tank.

Edit:
Oops, that was supposed to be a PM. I guess I'll leave it up so we can discuss it with everyone; it'll be more interesting.

Last edited by wolfie8113 at 26-Oct-2004 21:57

Looks like a close enough match to me >.>...
Cute little bugger, though, ain't he?

Definately a rainbow.

Too early to tell which species it is now, just time will tell.

-- Gomer

This mystery fish was just a larvae when I spotted him in my nephew's frog tank. I knew it wasn't a live bearer since it was still in the larval stage. I've been raising it in an empty 10 gal. I believe the egg may have hatched a ride on some duckweed, since the hatchling was found about 3-4 weeks later. I think he was a slow grower until I got him on some hardy food 3-4 times daily.

The finnage smacks of rainbow. It is two fins at the top, or should I say one long fin, that is broken. They are more rounded.

Size is about just over 1/2 inch at the time (12.5-14mm)

Hope these pics work ok.



Cory_Di attached this image:


Last edited by Cory_Di at 24-Oct-2004 19:19[/font]

Last edited by Cory_Di at 18-Nov-2004 20:07

Last edited by Cory_Di at 28-Nov-2004 19:01

Last edited by Cory_Di at 09-Jan-2005 23:13

Oh my! I'm devastated. A lump showed up overnight at the little guy's anus. A very fine strand of poop is still making it through that area and the lump is more to one side than the other. It is internal, but he is still relatively clear.

Last night he looked nice and plump and devoured several freeze dried blood worms, as usual. He's been eating these with no problems on and off for the past 2 weeks.

This morning, along with the anal lump, he looks slightly emaciated through the rest of his gut. His apetite is down and what little he takes in, he spits much more out than normal.

I hope he is just constipated, but I'm concerned he's got some type of worms.

Last edited by Cory_Di at 30-Oct-2004 10:46

Well, it passed - whatever it was. Phew!

He's getting bigger by the day and eats like a horse. I added Hikari Freeze Dried Daphnia to his diet once daily. He gets Hikari Micro Pellets in the AM. Hikari F/D Bloodworms in the late Afternoon, and Daphnia before bed time.

I'll try to get more pics. Color hasn't changed much other than he is showing less translucency and more irridesence. Those vertical bars are still there.

Find out where the plants in your nephews tank were bought. And then find out if there were any rainbows in those ponds/tanks the plants came from. As I raise plants and sell them, as well as buy them, I often get "additions" to my ponds and tubs, as well as give "additions" to others who purchase my plants from ponds that have fish breeding in them. As rainbows lay their eggs in the plants, and plant roots, they often get moved to a new home before hatching. I spawn rainbows in my tubs outside every year.

As for the ID, you will not be able to tell that untill it becomes older. Hopefully, it will be male and give some better ID through some color. If female, then there are only a few that can be IDed for possitive.



_____________________________________________________________

There is always a bigger fish...

Thanks!

He's getting bigger, the little bugger , just over an inch now. Must be that diet of bloodworms for breakfast, Hikari MicroPellets for lunch and Hikari Daphnia for Dinner. I feed him two more times in between on my days off.

I wasn't expecting to see color yet, but I think I'm seeing some at the base of the caudal fin for the first time - yellow! Its hard to see because he won't stand still. He has had a neon blue/turquoise hue - very faint near the front, along with the three vertical bands near the mid-section. The area running horizontally from front to rear is becoming distinctly darker. I wonder if I do have a bosemani :88).

I do not believe there were any bosemani or other rainbows in the tank the duckweed came from, but this doesn't mean something else wasn't transferred to this tank with an egg on it and he hitched a ride again . It's really the only contact the frog tank had with any outside sources within the 3-4 weeks before I spotted him in the larval stage.

Ooo - I haven't been this excited since I opened a box of Cracker Jack for the first time as a kid and went digging for the prize . I just wish I could keep him and get some buddies for him.

I will try to add more recent pics this weekend now that I'm seeing changes and he's going through some explosive growth.

Last edited by Cory_Di at 11-Nov-2004 19:39

well i'd say if hes bluish/turqoise on the sides and yellow on his head hes a turqoise rainbow , dont know the other name and they are SO pretty i have 2 and ones blue and ones more green. mine have a very bright yellow/gold stripe on thier heads and they can change it very quickly much like a chameleon.

me

There weren't any plants or animals added to that tank for about two months before you came in to the store, Diane. I have absolutely no idea how you ended up with a rainbow from a tank full of tetras. Name him "Enigma" or something...


Last edited by wolfie8113 at 15-Nov-2004 21:49

Well, I'll have to figure that my nephew was adding "stuff" to the tank from a local fish store where he use to go on his bike to buy crickets. One time, he did add a feeder guppy and thought I would be angry. I told him that some critters do need live food and being that he had this tadpole/frog, I didn't feel it was unreasonable for him to use feeder fish, if he was comfortable with it. That was months prior to this incident, but maybe he just didn't want to tell me that he was still taking "stuff" from that fish store and maybe the egg hitched a ride.

The wee guy is doing quite well and continues to grow rapidly. No further changes yet.

Last edited by Cory_Di at 16-Nov-2004 05:32

OK, here are some pictures as of today, Thursday, November 19th, 2004. I would estimate him at about 1.25 inches (3.75 cm) and maybe slightly larger.

I'll post several shots here.

Note the red by the gills. I have noticed this pretty much from the earliest days. It seems more intense. Ammonia and nitrite are 0, and nitrate about 5-15. I don't know if this redness is natural/genetic, or if it is something else. Are these nitrates too high for such a young fish?



Cory_Di attached this image:


Last edited by Cory_Di at 18-Nov-2004 20:11[/font]

And another pic, with a not so bleached body.

Cory_Di attached this image:

And an other shot of one half of the 10 gal for size perspective.



Cory_Di attached this image:

I wouldn't worry about the red... looks pretty normal for a fish of this size. I think his operculum's just a little more see through than you expect.
-Sarah