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Pete I love the suggestions, but a couple of questions. Are the other types of fish you mentioned going to be constantly harrassed by the angels, and will just be quick enough to get away?......Or will they live peacefully. I know the Angelfish is a somewhat territorial/aggressive fish, so if I had a choice I would like tankmates that will live in peace with them. Is this asking too much? Or I have I completly lost you?? BTW I will be looking into the types of catfish that you suggested! I'm very excited about re-stocking this tank. Edit:After looking at the catfish you suggested I will probably go with either the Pandas or the Farlowella (It looks cool!)Quick questiom with thew Pandas, They will need to be in a school as do most cories, what is the smallest school I could do?

Last edited by Jessnick at 17-Oct-2004 21:17

Last edited by Jessnick at 17-Oct-2004 21:26

possibly
change the clouds to tetras

(so then you can have an amazon tank)


definetly
get 2 more cories

sounds like a good setup
alex

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Well, you're going to have a little trouble selecting females. The only really reliable way to tell Angels apart is when they are breeding. You can sometimes make some pretty good guesses when they are grown but not with juvies.

Other than that, Great plan.

Just get a couple and believe you'll get 2 females.

Good luck, Mike

Ok so here is what i've come up with. 1 female Black Veil Angel, 1 female Silver Angel, school of 5 white clouds, and 4 Panda corys. Too much...too little...just right????

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Last edited by Jessnick at 18-Oct-2004 10:01

Just wanted to give you a bit of my experience with angels. I keep mine singly because I didn't want to worry about agression between them.

In one tank the angel lives with guppies, platies, rams, paradisefish, and loaches. I've had it for four months and I've seen no agression from this fish, not even chasing.

The other lives with black phantom tetras, keyholes, a Bolivian ram, BN, cories, and kribs. When first introduced to the tank it chased the tetras quite a bit but after a short while that settled down.

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Well, Any fish that get in with my angels (i dont know how the space is sooo slim!) get harrassed by the Angels. Prior to me dividing them off, they were fine, but did chase any other fish away. I think they will co-exist peacefully, with the occassional chasing from the angels.
Pandas are small enough you could easily put 6 of them in a 29, but you can start with 2, let them get acquainted to the tank, then add 2 more, and if you feel that 4 is enough, that would be fine. My feelings are that corys dont absolutely require a "magic" number, but more is always welcome! Its sort of like a "open door" policy, the more the merrier, but a few will do. Hehe.
What might be a good idea as well, is to start with just the 1 angel. Let it get used to the other fish, and its space for a month or two, then add the second one. This may reduce any aggression. If you add them both at once, chances might be that they will quickly choose a territory and become more aggressive. Espescially if you get a breeding pair.
On 1 other note: not to scare you away from mixing Angels with other fish, but keep in mind, if you do end up with a breeding pair, there are some fish they will see as being "more dangerous" to their eggs and future offspring. These fish will be harrassed to death if not stopped. My Flying Fox (false siamensis) got in with my angels just prior to my making a better divider, and by the time I managed to get him out of there (probably 4-5 hours later) he was pasty white and freaked right out. They were literally tag teaming him trying to kill him. Lucky for me and him that hes around 3 1/2 inches and was too large to kill easily. Hes recovered now, aside from a few missing scales. He no longer ventures in that end of the tank at all, not within 6 inches of the divider. The angels also managed to shred my bettas tail when he got in there. If I hadnt noticed his blue fin poking out from behind a plant I have no doubt they would have killed him.
However: they chase the danio and penguin fish, but seem to make no effort in particular to actually harm them. They also have ignored my weather loaches, my queen botia, and the corys, but totally hate the ADF's, the polka dot botia, and the flying fox. Weird, but true. Just be careful who you pick, and if you notice too much aggression (it will be very obvious that the Angels are trying to murder the other fish), then take those fish back and try a different one. It seems the more brightly colored or uniquely shaped, the more likely my angels show aggression.
Hope this helps some! Feel free to ask questions if you need to! Im not sure if this is more confusing than not!


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I've got 2 pairs right now. One is a Gold Marble and a Black Lace, the other is a Gold and a Marble so you can mix and match if it suits you.

Good luck, Mike

EDIT: I wouldn't mix Altums and Scalare, they are different species.



Last edited by Mike R at 17-Oct-2004 22:24

That post was getting messy...also wanted to ask am looking at some Angelfish in a mail order co. They have black veil and silver Angelfish. Other than the Altum that you mentioned, can I have one of each kind or do they have to be the same type?

Last edited by Jessnick at 17-Oct-2004 22:01

Ok I am thinking about re-stocking my 29 gallon hexagon tank. After doing some research in the compatibility section of FP, this is one idea I had. I'm pretty new to some of these kind of fish, so if these sound unheard of to be put in the same tank...I'm sorry. Ok here it goes:
1- Bolivian Ram
3- Black Tetras
4- Emerald catfish
1- female Betta

I'm not sure of the Betta yet so if she will not work she can be ommitted, But other than that what do you think, it seems a little scarse to me...any ideas? Different setup...gimme all you got!!!!

Hi Jessnick,
If you did decide to go with Angels, any type of Angel can be kept in a pair. A M/F pair, can get somewhat aggressive when breeding, so you could consider a F/F pair or a MF if you want to try breeding angels! It sure is fun to watch them!
When you go with tankmates for the angels, keep in mind these angels will take up most of the middle/top area of the tank. I would pick some hardy, tough little fish to go with them. I have found that no matter how many times I scoop leopard danios out of the divided side my angels have, they still get back in. Despite all attempts of the angels to "get em" the danios are far to quick. A Penguin Tetra also gets in there, and he is Ok with them too.
I would just suggest some tough fish: Danios, White Clouds, Black Neons, Emperor Tetras, all come to mind as being large enough to not be eaten, and tough enough to not be killed, or stressed too much. Im sure others have other fish examples as well.
Brochis Splendens (Emerald Cats) get quite large. I dont know if I would try them in a 29g hex. I have seen bronze corys at 4 inches long and 3 inches tall, and I hear the emerald cats get bigger. Perhaps you could pick a smaller catfish, pandas, aggassiz, trilineatus, etc etc. There are tons of kinds of smaller corys that would be more suited to that small surface area.
Also, You could consider a Farlowella Catfish. One would absolutely love your tall tank. They get long and very slim. They are a sucker mouth catfish with personality, and would keep down any algae you find in your tank. These wont be harrassed by the angels too much either.
Good luck!


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I think I would probably want to go with a type of angelfish in which I could have a pair, any other suggestions of tankmates with those angelfish?

hmmm i wonder if a 29 gal hex would work for altum angels, those are reallllly cool ... I know you cant put them in a regular 29 gal because those tanks aren't tall enough, but altums are bigger, I think, so I'm not sure if it would work... maybe 1?

So as of recently I have had some deaths in my tank, and found some strange creatures in the rim of my tank which has yet to be identified (The Hospital forum-"Strange Black worms" So after all this I am thinking of cleaning out the tank and starting over, And I was thinking of a nice pair of Angels in it. I have read Angelfish thrive in tall tanks, so it would seem obvious to try it.If I was to go this route, what else could go in this tank, i.e. any catfish, algae eaters or anything that would compliment this tank? Thanks for your suggestions!

it may sound scarce, but keep in mind the tank design. that tank is way tall when compared to its base measurement. i had a heck of a time stocking mine with well adjusted fish. prior to giving it away, my final stocking list was a male betta, several black skirts, 4 black kuhli loaches, a mystery snail, a dwarf gourami, and some ghost shrimp. 29 gal sounds like alot to work with until you look at the hex design.

i have never kept emerald cats, but your other suggestions sound okay.

jess, you will come to find that fallout suggest a full tank of tiger barbs for every tank :%)

tank sounds good, just pick up that schoal.

the problem with hex tanks is that there is less surface area so you can not stock it the way you would a regular tank.


chris

no, i like tiger barbs

females are smaller, have less finnage and tend to be in the tank labeled "female bettas"

That was a joke right? Ok so omit the females, how do I tell them apart? Do you think this is all I can get away with, It doesn't seem like this is very many fish for such a tank. Even considering there full size potential..Suggestions?

The tetras need to be in a bigger group, and the female omitted if you do that, as the tetras in my experience tend to be rather nippy.

My personal suggestion would be to stock it with 13 tiger barbs