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	baby whale?
vic Enthusiast Posts: 213 Kudos: 228 Votes: 288 Registered: 16-Mar-2004	I dont have one, they get too big for my tanks..about 8" or so, but here is some info for you: http://www.aquariacentral.com/fishinfo/fresh/bwhale.shtml http://www.aquariumfish.net/catalog_pages/wild/baby_whales.htm http://www.aquafriend.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=23&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
vic Enthusiast Posts: 213 Kudos: 228 Votes: 288 Registered: 16-Mar-2004	I've never had this fish, and prob never will, but this really is interesting....I find it very hard to believe that you cant have this small fish in a room without anything of these things....who really has a room without something like a radio, Tv, etc.....and as far as that goes, the waves would actually move along the entire house not just in that one room????? Please if you have anything on this or if anyone else can Verify this, I am very interested to learn about this.......
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	Those are just commonly known facts about them. Just like many books (except beginner ones) don't mention that corys are shoaling fish. Most of the time they don't have to, because it's already a well-known fact. I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
fishyhelper288 Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	where did it say that?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	Keep in mind that they need live foods, can be really finicky about water quality, and cannot be kept in the same room as TV, radios, computers, or any other electronic that gives off electrical waves. I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
fishyhelper288 Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	your welcome
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	ty ty ty y ty i really want one of these guys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
fishyhelper288 Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	ok i found some info for u it says that they can be alone or with 6 or more, they are good aquarium fish, heres the link, i will keep searching for more info if u want http://www.aquariumfish.net/catalog_pages/wild/baby_whales.htm
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	lol i read that too from one of your sights you linked up there, i'm jsut hoping i can have one.... i really dont want 6 of them lol not enough in the tank if i have to get a large group of them but thanks again me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
vic Enthusiast Posts: 213 Kudos: 228 Votes: 288 Registered: 16-Mar-2004	Again, I dont have any experience with them, maybe someone else who has one or several can speak up soon... But from what I have read on these, they are very agressive with each other, and either need to be left alone, or in larger groups of 6 or so.....In small groups the stronger will pick on the weaker ones...but lets see what the experts With this fish say.....
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	one other question do they have to be kept in pairs? i only saw one at my lfs me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	ty vic... but woohoo i can get one my tank is big enough me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	does anyone know anything about these? i saw one at my lfs and it was jsut too cute.... me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
topher02 Enthusiast Posts: 267 Kudos: 365 Votes: 0 Registered: 01-Dec-2003	Cory i have 2 in my room with all of the above and he has been fine now for a little over two years. I can see what you are saying but my dosent seem to mind. I feed him frozen bloodworms and he loves them. -topher
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	Baby whales, like all Mormyrids, are electric fish. They give off pulses to help themselves navigate at night in their native habitat, and they also use them to find food. But when you have an electical device that also gives off signals, that causes a lot of problems for the fish. The nonstop "noise" stresses them out and will likely kill them. A good analogy for it is if you had to go through life, day and night, with somebody screaming in your ear. Some people may be able to live like this, but the vast majority wouldn't. It would just be too stressful. The same is true with the fish. Having the tank in a different room will significantly decrease the "noise" for the fish, and you could also use an aquarium grounding rod to get rid of the rest of the signals. I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003	Simple google search was all it took ... "Mormyrid fish are capable of generating low-voltage discharges at all times and also produce a weak electromagnetic dipole field around their bodies as means of navigation, protection, and communication. .... Any manipulation within the field may be sensed by the fish, who is aware of the field distribution along their skin: if something should disturb their defense mechanism or the small, sensitive pores on its head, the fish will act upon it and avoid danger or attack what may be prey. If an object of greater conductivity than the fresh water is placed near the fish, the electric field lines of the fish bend towards the object in attraction, which distorts the field and warns the fish. It is also true that if an object of similar charge is placed near the fish, the field lines of the fish will repel from the object, also warning the fish. Source Ephasis added in last paragraph. Electromagnetic waves (all wireless devices including computer equiptment, speakers ect) will be picked up as a stressor by the fish. Stress is in general bad for the fish increasing the likelyhood of various diseases. ^_^ [font color="#000080"] EDIT: That's what you get for posting during your working lunch....just a bit too slow . ^_^[/font] [span class="edited"][Edited by Babelfish 2004-08-12 14:10][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	If mormyrids have been kept successfully in home aquaria thus far, I suppose you could go ahead with the baby whale, provided you have enough space. That being said, the standard home aquarium is not a suitable enviornment for mormyrids, as fluorescent lighting, wiring, and heaters are E.M.F. "hot spots" so to speak (they don't give off much noticeable EM themselves, but they attract it). So it doesn't really matter whether or not you have a computer in your room or not--any light field will likely be picked up in the tank. metal is also a bit of a problem for morymrids, as the conductivity distorts the fish's electrical field (especially iron based compounds). So doseable ferts and the like should be avoided, as well as most thermometers. [span class="edited"][Edited by Klee 2004-08-12 14:42][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
fish1 Banned Posts: 1727 Kudos: 1910 Votes: 58 Registered: 09-May-2004	These "whales" are best kept ALONE most fish will goble up any food before it gets a chance. I wouldnt keep even 6 of them the would harass each other with the electric charge. They will also bite other whales. i do have a magzine article about them that i can post if ya want. [Edited by fish1 2004-08-12 10:39pm] [Unedited by fish1 2004-08-13 14:38pm]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	I wouldn't recommend keeping a group of any Mormyrids together unless it was an extremely large (500+ gallons) and was densely planted. These fish, once settled in (that's why you see them kept together at the LFS an nowhere else), can and probably will be downright nasty towards each other. They are usually completely peaceful to other (non-electric) species of fish, however. [span class="edited"][Edited by Cory Addict 2004-08-12 23:03][/span] I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	thanks for all the replies and the one at my lfs was sold before i returned but she is ordering me another and i cant wait.... and there are no tv's etc in my dining room so he's safe me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55


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