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	i am getitn rid of most tnaks but keeping a 20g and need ideas
nano reefer Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	So neil when are you getting these fig8s then?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Clown_Loach_Kid Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004	well normally i add the water ... water conditioner .... i then leave it for 1 weeks ... then i add something like danio's to help make amonia for the filter .... then i leave them in there feeding them flake food then i check my water parameters every 4 days ... untill i cna see that my nitrite and amonia levels are 0 ..... then i adjust to whatever PH the fish need .... my tap water PH is 8.5 out of the tap 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out ..
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Cycling with fish is cruel & painful to the fish. Toxic ammonia burns fish's gills, eyes, fins, skin, etc. (ammonia burns). Ammonia eating bacteria also has to relieve themselves, and its waste is what we call nitrItes. Nitrites are toxic to fish as well (it decreases oxygen levels in the fish's blood, causing the fish to suffocate). Fishless cycling is quicker & you can fully stock your tank when done. See: http://www.tropicalfishcentre.co.uk/Fishlesscycle.htm
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Clown_Loach_Kid Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004	it is funny i have never lost a fish during cycling with fish .... the fish i use are usually really healthy when they r finished cycling a tank i will give that fishless cycling a go and see what happenes 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out ..
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	I don't know about you, but for fishless cycling, products such as stress zyme and other bacteria additives work well.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Don't waster your $$$ on any of those. They are nothing but dead bacteria/food & can actually harm your cycling process. The only product that contains live bacteria to "instant cycle" your tank is Bio-Spira. Marineland is out of stock & won't have any more until the fall.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	Really?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Yup, it's a fact!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	I've heard about another product called "cycle". Would that work?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	BIO-SPIRA IS THE ONLY PRODUCT CONTAINING LIVE BACTERIA CULTURES TO INSTANTLY CYCLE YOUR TANK. ANYTHING ELSe IS A TOTAL WASTE OF $$$ & CAN ACTUALLY CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE CYCLING OF A TANK!!!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	How exactly do yu cycle your tank?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Clown_Loach_Kid Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004	well i have added the salt and have tested the water with the hydrometer thing my gravity is 0.006 i am gettin my puffers in 5 - 7 weeks depending on how long they take to arrive 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out ..
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
nano reefer Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	Bet you are a wee bit exited Neil
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Clown_Loach_Kid Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004	yeah ...... they will be one of my kewlest fish .... always wanted puffers 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out ..
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Make sure your tank is cycled at whatever the SG is that the fish are being lept in presently.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	On a related note, I'm moving one of my fig8s to a ten gal for qt. The dude's only about 2" in length, but what worries me is that I keep a large bamboo shrimp in there. Would he be okay, at least for the time being? He's about 3.5".
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
fish1 Banned Posts: 1727 Kudos: 1910 Votes: 58 Registered: 09-May-2004	If you dont want to risk him you could put it in a bowl or something!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Puffers have plates for teeth, to take chunks out of crustaceons. Crunch, crunch!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
Klee Banned Posts: 420 Kudos: 307 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-May-2004	Nicely put. He's outta there.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:21
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	You could have even 2 F8s in a 20g, but are you ready for BW?
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