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I heard them called borneo plecos before but they're not from Borneo and they're not plecos... Anyway, they get to about 3" or so I've heard.

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Yep...they're usually really shyish during the day and stick to the back of the tank (there's a powerhead and filter intakes there too, they like the current)...but they always come clean the front and sides of the tank 10 mins after the lights go out. If you put a powerhead in the front of the tank they will sit in front of it for hours on end

They clean great, they eat lots of kinds of algae (many that ottos won't), and they do a good job at it. I have a magnetic algae scraper that I scrape the front of the tank off with every week just to get the few missed spots off...but I leave the sides and back for them to munch on all they want

Yes, I do have a pair...I've set the tank up properly and given them a place to spawn if they wish...but I doubt that they will until this winter when the temp goes down to 72 or so. They're usually bred by chance matings anyway...they're kinda hard to breed.

one more thing, do they clean good? are they always that shy? and they are night crawlers right?

wow cool, and you have a pair.... thats so cool... right now i have 4 otos and a 7 inch pleco, i need something to replace the pleco, prob a bn? but they dont have those at lfs so i'll prob go with cories

Personally I think the pic looks cooler than the fish itself...it's just the composition and the clairity of the photo that makes it look cool ...it's is still a cool fish tho...

I forgot to add that most species grow to 3"...some grow to 4" tho...

They will tolerate tropical temps (my pair has been in a tank that's 80 degrees F for about a month with no ill effects other than skittishness), but they will die if they are in hot water for too long... It's summer and my tanks are 8 degrees warmer than usual...

they are sooo cool looking, too bad they are cold water, because its time for me to trade me 7 inch pleco in now before it becomes godzilla and those loaches just looking sweet... maybe i'll just get another pleco

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They've been given a variety of names including butterfly pleco, butterfly loach, borneo loach/plec, hillies...lots

They're fairly easy to keep if there's a lot of current, and plenty of algae. They're kinda nit picky about water conditions, as with all scaleless fish... They're a cold water fish and prefer lower temps...

Go check out their profile on loaches.com or check out the profile that I wrote for this site when it comes up

so any body keet these kinda fish? are they easy to take care of? whats their water condition requirement?

i've also seen them refered to as "butterfly loaches"

i was at petco today, and i saw this VERY interesting fish that is about the size of a nickle, its mouth is like pleco and otos, and its REALLY thin, like 3 mm maybe. it sticks on windows, on gravel, rocks.... they look VERY cool and interesting, can somebody tell me what it is? its freshwater

Hey all

The last time i went to my lfs and i saw that fish this way out posted and they called it a "boreal pleco" ?!?

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!!I think I just learned somthing new!!

the picture is perfect, those things look neat, how big do they get up to???

i saw a molly eating stuff off its body while it was on the glass, looks kinda funny.

Sounds like a Hillstream loach to me

Here's my female Hillstream
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Freshwater flounders don't stick onto things like the fish GreenFootball is describing...

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

it sounds like one of those new freshwater flounders. DOn't know much about them but i have seen them in my lfs.

And they are 100% coolwater fish.

A few months in a tropical tank is all it takes for them to keel over.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Definately sounds like a hillstream loach to me. Should really be kept in river tanks though as they need lots of water circulation/current.

Try looking up Hillstream Loaches at www.loaches.com.

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