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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() | It depends on what species of puffer... All are aggressive to some degree (and some are just plain vicious), and many are hardwater brackish fish. Ottos do best in a soft water aquarium and do not tolorate salt. ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | yea i meant to put dwarf puffer. sorry ![]() |
SnogardOne![]() Small Fry Posts: 11 Votes: 1 Registered: 24-Jul-2004 ![]() | I would recommend 1 dwarf per 3 gallons, but nothing less than a 10G.So 3 for a 10g, 6-7 for a 20g and 10 for a 30g. I would also highly recommend alot of plants, ones that grow to at least 2/3rds the height of your tank. I keep an equal amount of ottos as puffers(1 puffer-1 otto,30 puffers-30 ottos) none of the two grow to reach 2 inch so your safe. Try this place http://null]http://null[/link][link=http://www.dwarfpuffers.com/index.htm they are all about D puffers....Good luck and enjoy... |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | So say i have a 29 gallon tank could i do 10 puffer and 10 otto? Also what about ghost shrimp i heard that puffers "might" not eat them and if they do oh well they cost like 30 cents. |
Kim![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 327 Kudos: 436 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() | I wouldn't go with that many otos. I'd put 5 in. Kim |
Alex![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict 510 Posts: 721 Registered: 03-Oct-2004 ![]() | yea 10 is way to much |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | how would you guys feel about a raphael catfish in with the puffers? would they be ok together seeing how the raphael pretty much hides all day. |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | I have decided to have pufferfish/otto tank. How many puffer and Otto's can be kept in a 10 gallon / 20 gallon / 29 gallon i havent decided on what size tank i am gonna go with yet but either 3 of those would be easy enough to find space for and or get |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | i dont think i have accese to amazons or cardinals what would be a good fish count to have anyways? i have 3 ottos and 1 dwarf puffer in there right now and i plan on of course getting more puffs. what do you think?Last edited by azrael_darkness at 02-Nov-2004 15:02 |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() | For a 29 gallon, I'd go with 1-2 amazon puffers, ottos, and some schooling tets (cardinals work well). |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | also on a different note i heard that tiger barbs would be a nice addition as well. Anyone have any input on that? |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() | 3 gallons per puffer sounds good. If you're running a 29 gallon, I'd go with 8 puffers and a school of ottos. The stocking for the amazon tank could be as follows: 13 cardinals, 5 ottos, 2 puffers--or something like that. |
crickit99![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 136 Kudos: 194 Votes: 2 Registered: 21-Jul-2004 ![]() | I have a 20 gallon (high) for my dwarf puffer tank. I have 6 DPs and 3 Ottos (and some ghost shrimp that get eaten over time). It has a lot of live plants & caves, and I have to regularly feed my Ottos because there isn't enough algae in the tank. (I guess I call the "Amazon Puffer" a South American Puffer. I have a 50 gallon with 3 of those, and I am only adding a pair of BNs for algae. Mine are VERY active...and considering the way they act, I think any other fish I add would be considered food...I'm already worried about the BNs. Mine act like little pirahnas, LoL. But in my research on SAPs, very few fish are recommended as tankmates, but every fish is different...LoL Mine seem to have more personality than what I thought they would.) |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | so say like 8 puffers, 4 ottos, and how about live plants? My 29 is from a wal-mart kit i got last year or whatever and i doubt the light is all that strong which live plants would you recomend? I have fake plants in there as of now. |
me is already in use![]() Fish Addict Posts: 596 Kudos: 99 Votes: 25 Registered: 02-Dec-2003 ![]() | Any plants are fine, fake or live... The plants are purely for territory and for breaking the line of sight from puffer to puffer. Puffers usually only accept live food, if yours happens to not be eating. Puffers should be occasionally fed a snail to keep their teeth trimmed, if you didn't know that...Do not give them Malaysian Trumpet Snails(spiral shell) as their shells are too hard for the puffer's teeth |
crickit99![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 136 Kudos: 194 Votes: 2 Registered: 21-Jul-2004 ![]() | The bulb may need to be replaced, if it's a year old. But you can do low light plants, such as Anubias, Java Fern, and Java Moss. Even some Apons would do OK, mine did in lower light, they just didn't grow as fast. But fake plants will work, or you could use both. Or you can always upgrade the fixture, if you wanted to. Just make sure the tank is cycled before adding the Puffers or Ottos, as both are too sensitive to do well (or live) through a cycle. (Although from what you said, they may already be in the 29 gal?) And the weekly water changes are very important. My puffers all eat frozen foods, just no flakes. And many LFSs will give you pest pond snails as well. Hmm, keep an eye out for internal parasites, tends to be a problem in puffers. All mine have had them. Puffers are great, very fun to have around!Christina |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() | SAs (after irrubescos) are the most peaceful puffers I know of, and are regularly found with tetras in their natural enviornment, or so I'd assume. After seeing a setup similar to the aforementioned one @ Sea World San Diego, I convinced my boss to set up a SA puffer tank. So far it's been a month, and no cardy fatalities. Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 02-Nov-2004 18:26 |
Deuce Bigalow![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 225 Kudos: 22 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Jan-2003 ![]() | Anyone any ideas if bumblebee gobies would be ok for a dwarf puffer tank? Deucey |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() | Most people who have tried keeping BBGs with dwarves have done so successfully. |
Azrael_Darkness![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 547 Kudos: 420 Votes: 8 Registered: 26-Oct-2004 ![]() | i don't think i have access to bumble bee gobies around here ![]() ![]() |
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what would be a good fish count to have anyways? i have 3 ottos and 1 dwarf puffer in there right now and i plan on of course getting more puffs. what do you think?
