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	Any SW experts here..need ID
Rob1619 Fish Addict Posts: 763 Kudos: 619 Votes: 626 Registered: 01-Sep-2004	Hey guys I have some pics and need ID of the SW fish..so please if someone knows i apreciate it a lot Pic:1 Pic:2 Pic:3 Pic:4 Pic:5 Pic:6 I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.
Posted 01-Aug-2007 13:22
Melosu58 Hobbyist Posts: 120 Kudos: 86 Votes: 0 Registered: 05-May-2007	Pic 4 looks like a frogfish. You have a couple pics of stingrays there but because of the difficulty in raising them it`s hard to get info on them from my aquarium sources. The other fish look like types of groupers. Sorry not to be more specific but these are not your typical home aquarium fish.
Posted 03-Aug-2007 21:44
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Pic #1 : Difficult to say without a clear view of the unpaired fins. Did this fish have a long dorsal fin, with an anterior section supported by hard rays (spines) and a posterior section supported by soft rays? Because, without a shot of the dorsal fin in particular, that fish could be anything. Pic #2 : Rays are a pig to identify even for the professional! However, that one could be either a Dasyatis or a Urolophus species. To pin it down to species level, you'll have to trawl through Fishbase using those two genera as a starting point (and you'l probably find you have a LOT of species to wade through!). Pic #3: This is almost certainly a Sebastes species or a close relative (these are members of the Family Scorpaenidae, related to the Lionfishes). Sebastes species can be quite variable in colour, so pinning this one down to species level is likely to be tough as well. None of the 20+ Sebastes species in my Burgess' Mini-Atlas is a precise match, partly because of that horizontal stripe through the anterior hard-rayed portion of the dorsal fin. Since your fish is the only one I've seen with that feature, I suspect it may be diagnostic with respect to species identity, and again, a trip to Fishbase searching under the Genus Sebastes could prove fruitful. Closest I can find with respect to the body stripes in my Burgess' Mini-Atlas (including the forked, V-shaped band below the soft rayed portion of the dorsal fin) is Sebastes nigrocinctus, but the Burgess image lacks the horizontal hard-rayed dorsal stripe. This is a 61 cm fish in the wild if that helps. The smaller Sebastes dailli (20 cm as adult) is a possible contender, but a much less perfect match. Pic #4: Initially looked like another member of the Scorpaenidae - possibly a Scorpaena or a Scorpaenopsis species. Colour patterns on these are so variable that dissection is generally the only way to determine them to species level conclusively. To add to the confusion, you could also be looking at a Sebastapistes species or possibly even an Iracundus species - all of these Genera are pretty much alike. Pic #5: See the remarks above for Pic #2. However, the fact that this one has an angular rather than a rounded anterior portion of the head makes it more likely that it is a Dasyatis species. Urolophus tend to have more rounded faces (but this is not a characteristic that is diagnostically reliable in all circumstances!). Pic #6: Again, likely to be a Dasyatis species on the basis of the pointed snout, but again, you need to check more than one Genus entry in Fishbase. Tracking down your Rays will probably involve you in hunting through entire Families in order to find a likely match. Pay attention to geographical location if known, as this helps winnow out useless entries quite handily. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 08-Aug-2007 19:51


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