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I know yellow tangs will get too big for a 30g tank

...and Fire Shrimp, and Cleaner Shrimp, and CBS...maybe. I have talked to people who were able to keep Hawks with shrimp in Reef tanks with no problems.

One of those luck of the draw things. I researched getting a Long Nose Hawk for my 75 Reef tank, it seemed that it was about 50/50 with them eating shrimp. General consensus was that if the shrimp were already in the tank, the fish would likely not seem them as food if they were put into the tank later from above, like food is.

Good point mikey.

A $30 fire shrimp is a damn expensive prawn dinner, IMO

im not going for the marine any more thanks for all the sujestions might be going for marine in the far away future bye

Shame you changed your mind.....I've been looking at switching my 29g fresh to marine. This post has really helped--what kind of cleaning would I have to do to the tank were I to make the swap? Would I have to bleach?

Hot water and some elbow grease should be more than sufficient.

im still pricing salt and i might have a tank so im up and running so im going to get 1 common clown ( bigger tank now its a 3foot 1) 1 royal grama 3 cleaner shrimp live rock coral and other fish any ideas to colour up the tank please say

consider a coral beauty angel or a flame angel

Could i get a powder blue surgen on a tank that size or a yellow tang . Who big do the coral butay angles brow ?

I have to disagree on the overstocked, unless his 30ga is unusually tall.

Sure they might eat peppermint shrimp, but I don't like those anyway .

No tangs in a tank that size.

what about a three foot tank??

I still wouldn't try a tang--like before, I'd try to stick with a dwarf angel as your centerpiece fish.

To answer your earlier question, Coral Beauties get to roughly 4". Check out their profile at

http://]http://[/link][link=http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/sw/profile.asp?id=Centropyge+bispinosus

Flame Angels also reach almost 4", and can be seen at

http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/sw/profile.asp?id=Centropyge+loriculus


You might be able to handle a tang in a 55 USG(4') tank, but I've heard people say no less that 90 gallons would be sufficient. I guess it all depends on bio-load and, naturally, the type of tang. The smallest tang profiled on this site is the yellow tang, reaching almost 8".(Keep in mind, however, that only 4 tangs are profiled on the site.) Yellow tang at the following site...

http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/sw/profile.asp?id=Zebrasoma+flavescens

I'm assuming a 3' tank would be roughly 40 USG.....?

In that case, you MAY be able to have the tang in there, but as your ONLY fish. Personally, I would go with the Coral Beauty or the Flame.

Hope that was at least partially enlightening.

caveman

[span class="edited"][Edited by caveman 2004-06-28 21:49][/span]

No tangs in a 3 foot tank either

What could i get in the 3' tank then???

Looks like part of the profile for clowns got mixed in with the profile for the yellow tang...

So what could i get in a three foot tank?
I'm wanting to get a clown definatly!

You could get a pair of clowns, a coral beuaty and a royal gramma . That would be a little full but likely okay. Then youe could add invertebrates as you choose and corals if you have the proper lighting

What lighting would i need?