FishProfiles.com Message Forums

	starting FW mangrove swamp tank!!!
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	i have an empty 40errium that was reinforced to hold water. i was hoping to make this into a mangrove tank. so i was wondering what kind of filter i would use in this situation? would i use an under gravel filter or a sumbmerced filter? what kind of fish could put in about 10 to 15usg of water? could i add frogs or newts? are there any kind of plants that can be in water and land? thanks for answering any of these questions! THANKS!!! [span class="edited"][Edited by BeastKeeper 2004-07-28 11:00][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
solublefish Fish Addict Posts: 562 Kudos: 850 Votes: 40 Registered: 27-Feb-2004	You mean a mangrove tank, like a mangrove swamp? The water will have to be brakish. Mudskippers would be a good choice. Or, do you just want it too look like a mangrove swamp but be freshwater? EDIT: Here is a good site about brackish setups: http://badmanstropicalfish.com/brackish/brackish.html [span class="edited"][Edited by SolubleFish 2004-07-27 20:12][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	i think all start off FW but if i like the idea of a mangrove swamp i most likely will turn it to brackish. yes, so right from the start i would like it to look like a mangrove swamp but with FW. but i cant use a under-gravel filter with brackish, so what would i use?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	solublefish this link says ill need a 55usg or larger to be able to hold fish. so will my 40usg terrarium work if set it up correctly? the site also recomended that i should get a canister filter. what size and what brand should i get?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
solublefish Fish Addict Posts: 562 Kudos: 850 Votes: 40 Registered: 27-Feb-2004	Since your tank is not 55 gallons, just modify the stocking list for your tank. I do not know much about canister filters, but I have good things about eheims and fluvals. Here are filters for a good price (click on filters, then canisters): http://bigalsonline.com [span class="edited"][Edited by solublefish 2004-07-28 06:25][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	for the stocking arangement what size length should i shoot for. i dont want to take 5 min every time i want to see them. mollies would be to large, so something 2" or smaller.i guess. are there any frogs or newts i could put in the tank with the fish? i would get mudskippers but their rare to find in MO.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
solublefish Fish Addict Posts: 562 Kudos: 850 Votes: 40 Registered: 27-Feb-2004	How about some brackish pufferfish! Those guys are awsome. I know some newts release toxins into the water, so it could be good to stay away from them. If it were my tank, I would fill up most of the tank with water (maybe 3/4) and have the mangrove looking wood and decorations branch out of the water. Not all mollys reach 5 inches. There are three species of mollies that are sold under that name. One species is called Poecilia sphenops and will reach 2.5.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	i thought about getting a couple of green spotted puffers and some archer fish. so right now ill do some research on both. i attempted to get a small mangrove swamp fell by filling a ten gallon tank up half way , then push all the gravel so there was 3" of gravel out of the water and put a plant on the gavel. then to see how it looked with fish i put my betta in it. he has about 5usg to swim so he looks comfortable. this really sparked my desire to do this mangrove swamp!!! is there any kind frog or a small turtle that would work with brackish conditions?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
solublefish Fish Addict Posts: 562 Kudos: 850 Votes: 40 Registered: 27-Feb-2004	I want to do that with my betta in a 10 gallon tank I have lying around! Sounds nice. As for the frog/turtle, I have no idea. Best place is to reasearch yourself or ask another forum. All I know is that if you want a turtle, you will be in it for the long haul. Turtles live a loooong time.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	i know right now i have two ball pythons and a bearded dragon. but it seems i enjoy having a pet that will last longer then 5 years. i might just set up the mangrove swamp to fw since im inexperienced with brackish conditions. so ill make my 40usg the fw mangrove swamp and make my 20usg gallon the brackish aquarim. i cant wait to get them both started!!!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
Lyndzi Fish Addict Posts: 546 Kudos: 226 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jul-2003	my 86 was previously used in a petstore as a river setup, they had a pair of checkered barbs, I think some phantom tetras and some kribs. For land they had various lizards and I think a snake.. I could give you a link to a forum the guy that maintained it is at?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	lindzi that forum would be great!!! please de site it for me thanks
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
Gomer Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002	Archer fish grow too large for a tank that size. Pacific Blue Eyes are found in Mangrove wetlands here, and would be great. Ever considered an African Dwarf Frog? I have never owned one, and know basically nothing about them, so i cannot help you there, just suggesting it. Maybe look into them. I know here at my LFS you can buy mangrove driftwood roots, well that is the only type of driftwood they sell. Maybe you could fill the tank up 1/2 way or 3/4 and have mangrove roots sticking out. -- Gomer [span class="edited"][Edited by Gomer 2004-07-30 18:49][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
BeastKeeper Big Fish Posts: 444 Kudos: 389 Votes: 47 Registered: 27-Apr-2004	yeah after some research the archer gets about 10 inches so their out of the question. the green spotted puffers get to be about 6 inches. if i went to a 100usg these guys would work but for my 40 usg terrarium i could maybe fit some figure 8s or some dwarf puffers, but i would much like the ease of the mangrove being a fresh water. but a big mangrove root would set the mood a little better so thats a must. but i like linzi's idea with the snake! but im getting a couple of mudskippers. so what fish could i get with these guys anys and what kind of substrate would be best?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
Gomer Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002	PM Shinigami, he used to keep Mudskippers. -- Gomer
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23
DarkRealm Overlord Moderator metal-R-us Posts: 5962 Kudos: 2166 Registered: 23-Sep-2002	The water will have to be brakish. Mudskippers would be a good choice. Or, do you just want it too look like a mangrove swamp but be freshwater? You can acclimate certain species of Mangrove over to FW......as a matter of fact, most mangroves sold to SW hobbiests are FW raised and have to be acclimated over a month (or more) to handle full SW. Target usually sells mangroves planted in small containers in the spring.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:23


	Jump to:

The views expressed on this page are the implied opinions of their respective authors.
Under no circumstances do the comments on this page represent the opinions of the staff of FishProfiles.com.

FishProfiles.com Forums, version 11.0
Mazeguy Smilies