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Rob1619 Fish Addict Posts: 763 Kudos: 619 Votes: 626 Registered: 01-Sep-2004	Hello..iam soon getting my 1ooL/24 gallon tank soon and i will have some 5-banded barbs,cherry barbs and ottos. My question is...can i have 2 fiddler crabs in my tank? If not..any sugesstions would be nice..thanks. Robby I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.
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Troy_Mclure Fish Addict Posts: 725 Kudos: 306 Registered: 20-Jan-2003	I am pretty sure the crabs would eat your fish sorry to say.
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Rob1619 Fish Addict Posts: 763 Kudos: 619 Votes: 626 Registered: 01-Sep-2004	Thanks..Hmm.. i thought so.. Can i have fish at all.. with the fiddler crab if so what kind? Last edited by robby1619 at 12-Oct-2004 05:58 I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.
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TheGoldenDojo Fish Addict Posts: 575 Kudos: 559 Votes: 8 Registered: 04-Apr-2004	fiddler crabs are brackish water, need land access, and are predatory. the only fish fiddlers can go with are brackish water fish including puffers and larger gobies.
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Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Actually, nearly all filders can be raised in FW without any ill effect. Also, they are generally detritus feeders, not preadators. That isn't to say they won't snap at your fish, but most are fairly docile.
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johnnylaw1984 Enthusiast Posts: 158 Kudos: 168 Votes: 19 Registered: 27-Sep-2004	i had two fiddle crabs with two piranhas. the fish have to be bigger the the crab other wise the crab may attack the fish. i watched in shock as a fiddler attacked and killed a feeder goldfish. its a tough call, but the fiddler will attack a small fish that gets to close
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Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	I used to keep a fiddler in my 20 gallon with small tetras and cories. As far as I know, the little bugger never killed anything. Perhaps you have a different species of crab, as, IME, it is impossible for a fiddler to kill a goldfish of similar length, as their functional claws are absolutely tiny. The larger, intimmidating-looking claw is only for show amongst males, and is very weak--to the point where it is physically impossible for it to restrain a fish long enough for the fiddler to eat it.
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Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	I too keep my fiddler crabs with corys and tetras, and they have never once showed unprovoked aggression or predatory behavior to any of the fish. In fact, it is the fish who harrass the crabs when they are trying to eat algae. Their large claw is suprisingly weak, and the most they can do with it is suddenly push it outwards to "punch" the fish. The claw cannot even open wide enough to pinch a fish. They will not hesitate to attack fish that are already dying, however.[/font] I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
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Rob1619 Fish Addict Posts: 763 Kudos: 619 Votes: 626 Registered: 01-Sep-2004	Thanks for your answers.. So i will buy a fiddler crab then..if it doesn't go that good i will take him back I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.
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Gourami Mega Fish Posts: 1205 Kudos: 477 Votes: 1 Registered: 23-Apr-2002	If you get a crab, make sure you have some where it can get out of the water if it wants. And a tight fitting lid is a must, or he/she may decide to take a stroll around the house. HTH
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Rob1619 Fish Addict Posts: 763 Kudos: 619 Votes: 626 Registered: 01-Sep-2004	One question..i have read that the fiddler crab only lives 1-2 months in a freshwater tank..is this true? If it is then i will surely not buy one.You have any other suggestion to have in my tank? I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
Corydoran Enthusiast Posts: 269 Kudos: 370 Votes: 1217 Registered: 27-Sep-2004	As TheGoldenDojo said, fiddler crabs need brackish water. I think LFS chains just don't know any better, so they put the crabs in freshwater tanks, reducing their health.
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Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	They do prefer some sort of land access. As for the salt, I can only vouch for myself, but my fiddler has lived in FW for over a year now.
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