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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | I went ahead an stuck some small pest snails in my breeding tank w/Smokey (the male) and he seems to ignore them. I wasnt gonna put any more with him but I took a trip to Owensburo (for some reason) and found white mystery snails at WalMart ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Yes, I got them from WalMart. I feed my snails.... They get flakes, and I feed them when I feed my bettas (the bettas get pellets and for some reason wont touch the flakes) and I also stick freeze-dried worms in there... ![]() ![]() |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | If you got the snails from somewhere that knows little about their care such as walmart or alot of fish stores they may need fed really well for a few weeks before they start reproducing. Alot of these places think applesnails live on algae but in reality the snails you have are actually carnivorous and only eat algae in passing as an easy snack. They'll slowly starve to death on only algae and you'll find alot of dead snails in the store tanks. Especially if they've had the snails for any length of time. |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | I dont have an y eggs in there yet ![]() 3x Apples (1x Gold 2x White) 5x? Pest Snails Hopefully, In a few weeks I will know ther gender ^_^ ![]() ![]() |
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djtj![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1764 Kudos: 885 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | Also, there is a phenominon called partheogenesis, in which unfertilized eggs can hatch in a form of cloning. leopard lizards (related to collared lizards, not leopard geckos) are famous for this, as all wild populations are female! Ants and other insects are also capiable of laying "unfertilized" eggs that hatch into clones of their parents. This could be what's happening with the apple snails. |
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Calilasseia![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | So Apple Snails have distinct male and female genders, as opposed to being hermaphrodites like certain other snails? Hmm, interesting. Only quite a few aquatic snails are hermaphrodites. You only need two to begin a major population explosion because they can cross fertilise each others' eggs. Chances are you'll find that the hermaphroditic species are the ones you don't want in your aquarium and which reach plague proportions in no time at all ![]() ![]() |
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fishyhelper288![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | they are gold mystery snails , and when they were sticking to the glass, i pulled them away, and peaked inside, the shell was "clean" there was nothing that indicated male |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Applesnails rarely change gender. It's not unheard of but it's very very unlikely. It's even been debated on the applesnail.net board if it can actually happen because so few people have experienced it. Along with the fact snails aren't always easy to tell the gender of many of the sex changes turned out to be missexed in the first place. I also think it's only 1 sex that can change to the other and only a very few species. Canas are usually the ones I hear about. Females will often lay eggs whether there is a male or not so unless you get babies they can still all be females. |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | dunno. ![]() ![]() "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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fishyhelper288![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | if thats true moondog, then how come i still have 2 female apple snails, i have had them for like a year, and they have always been together, i wanted to breed them, but they kinda cant ![]() |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Hooray! These snails are *so* pretty ![]() ^_^ I wish I had a pic ! ![]() ![]() |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | if you did they will change genders so that they can better cover your tank with eggs ![]() "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | I just have another quick question before I go out and buy my breeder snails: Could I put them in a betta breeding tank with no problums? I keep my gold snail with a male betta (Klaus) who is too old to breed, with no problums. But if I move the gold snail into the breeding tank with a new male betta and a female would it be alright? If the snails multipy and the bettas multipy at the same time would this create a problum? The tank is a okay planted 10 gal, long, and filled halfway to the top with fresh distilled water...? ![]() ![]() |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Yes, thats true. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | well, if your snail is so carnivorous then you might want to rethink putting him in with a breeding pair of bettas or else he'll eat their eggs. "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Thats true... The tank is finnally ready for Smokey (the male breeding betta) to go in. Unfortunatly, his mate died while I was away.... ![]() My snail is actually bigger than smokey is. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | well, if they're fine together now, then they could be fine with some female bettas too. but you can always try it out and take the snails out if the bettas are nipping their antennae "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | My male, Klaus (older, not going in the breeder tank) lives with an apple. I had to move the apple in there after he ate my guppies.... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | ah, that's too bad. some bettas might leave the snails alone, but i know the couple males i had would nip at anything that even looked like a worm, which is what they're thinking of when they see the antennae ![]() "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Oh... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Snails are fun.... ![]() ![]() |
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