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ah, thanx alot

Calla, are these the clear shrimps about a year ago? I think I got some of them still in my tank. They are so cool! Wont mind to grab a few more.

Mango

Coplicate ain't the half of it Veneer, if it isn't native, we can't get it. The prawning industry over here is pretty fearful about disease and wants to be sure nothing bad gets in, so we are somewhat limited.



For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Damn Well at this rate id be willing to pay $3.00 each

Furthermore, North America - as compared to, say, Australasia - possesses an impoverished native faunal range with regard to freshwater shrimp.

As for Australia, stringent import regulations are undoubtedly complicit.



Last edited by Veneer at 03-Jul-2005 10:05

Over here, i'd bet its partially because most dams are full of Gambisia, yabbies and trout who all love eating shrimp, and partially because a lot of councils around Sydney see fit to poison our rivers with round-up in order to kill Alligator weed.

The reason they are rare in shops is cause when they do sell them, they sell em for $3.00 each DUH!

And the reason Sin and I haven't gotten our usual batch is because some bright spark at the wholesaler let cray into the shrimp ponds!

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Do you know why shrimp are hard to find?

In North America, generally speaking, most aquarists have unfortunately little practical interest in anything beyond "bread-and-butter" freshwater invertebrates (e.g., apple snails) - especially as compared to German and Japanese hobbyists; furthermore, many exporters have proved reluctant to ship anything but mainstay species for which sale is assured.

thanx calla What kind?

Do you know why shrimp are hard to find?

Sin has some if you get stuck Dude, I gave her a jarfull a few months back.

And the shrimp ARE hard to find, I'll try to get some in the next few weeks when i go to QLD. If i do, they are about 25c each (but we have to buy 150 shrimp at a time as we go through the wholesaler.)
I'll let you know if we have success.

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

I want to have some little inverts in my 5g, but I cant find shrimp anywere! & the only snails I remember seeing are the biig fat yellow ones (apple snails?) But *think* I do remember seeing small (tiny) ones with brown shells, would those work?

thanx

Nerites, Brigs, MTS, and asolene spixi are plant-safe, small, and common. If you cant find brigs or want really nice colored ones try Aquabid andSnips and Snails

Also, http://www.aquaticplantdepot.com/snails1.html for Brigs, Nerites, MTS, etc.




Last edited by katieb at 24-Jun-2005 19:50

I'll do graffiti,
If you sing to me in French.

the one im thinking of might be a Ramshorn, "Family Planorbidae".

hmm,"Neritina natalensis" looks nice, if I can get ahold of it would it work? Physa Acuta look nice & so do mts (are those malasian trumpet snails?)

The marking critieria is,

3cm or smaller
plant safe

What reasonably common snails would you reccomend?


Last edited by dude_dude at 24-Jun-2005 19:32

I havent seen a mystery snail that wasnt a Brig

It's about 50/50 here depending what store you go to. The lfs nearest me prefers to sell the huge snails. The bigger the better so they rarely have brigs unless it's a very uncommon color. Walmart always has brigs and 2 of the petstores that also carry fish usually have a mix of brigs and canas. My 2 purple striped snails actually came from walmart.

I havent seen a mystery snail that wasnt a Brig:%) I suspect the species of the mystery snail one buys is dependent on the LFS's supplier. Thats why its good to know the difference.

Last edited by katieb at 24-Jun-2005 18:52

I'll do graffiti,
If you sing to me in French.

Canas come in more colors than just gold but generally snails sold as gold mystery are canas. I've yet to see a gold mystery snail be a brig. I also haven't seen any other colors of canas sold in stores.

P. bridgesii comes in many colors, including gold. It remains small and will not eat healthy live plants.

P. Canalculata(sp?) comes in gold and gets to be tennis ball size and will eat plants. It is very important that you make sure your bringing the right species home. Both are sold as Mystery Snails.


Applesnail.net has a guide on how to ID a bridgesii:

The shell of bridgesii apple snails species has about 5 to 6 whorls. The most obvious characteristic of the shell are the square shoulders (flat at the top of the whorls) and almost 90° sutures.

The shell of canaliculata apple snail species is globose and relatively heavy (especially in older snails). The 5 to 6 whorls are separated by a deep, indented suture (hence the name 'canaliculata' or 'channeled'). The shell opening (aperture) is large and oval to round. Males are known to have a rounder aperture than females. The umbilicus is large and deep. The overal shell shape is similar to that of Pomacea lineata, except the deeper sutures and more globose shape in canaliculata.
The size of these snails varies from 40 to 60 mm wide and 45 to 75 mm high depending on the conditions.
The colour varies completely yellow and green (cultivated forms) to brown with or without dark spiral bands (wild form). The shell growth of this species occurs mainly in spring and summer, while it stagnates in fall and winter.


I'll do graffiti,
If you sing to me in French.

Well you can put what are normally considered pest snails in there. The little usually brown cone shaped ones. If you can id the snail on here [link=http://applesnail.net/content/snails_various.php]http://applesnail.net/content/snails_various.php" style="COLOR: #00C0C0[/link]. Then you can look up the size and get more information on it. 1 of the smaller applesnails would also work. They are usually sold as black mystery snails and only get 2". The big ones usually sold as gold mystery will get way too large for that tank.