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My male paradise has been building bubble nest and chasing my fenale all around. She will not give into him. I have read a lot about them since I got them and Ive only read how they are very, very easy to spawn. Ive lowereed the water, added spawning supplements, raised the temp but nothing!! I put their food right beside the bubble nest, hoping shed inspect it but if she did, I didnt notice. Im afraid hell just keep chasing her until she becomes really stressed out. Anything I can try???

I also tried to breed my bettas. Since Ive had them, I have only saw one of them build a nest. I have tried all three of them with the same female but nothing happens. The same fish is the only one who build a nest while with this female. One of my males actually swam around in the tank with her as he would with any other fish. He didnt even chase her!!

I guess Im a failure at breeding fish. It never works.

I did the whole betta set up with 6 inches of water, the heater at 80, spawning fluid, cups.....everything.

UGH!!!!!!!

I can't offer much advice on the betta front, but your paradise female may be too young to want to spawn. Add more hiding places, maybe, until she's ready. If it gets really bad, a tank divider is cheap and will work.

Eric

More specifics on the betta setup

How big was the tank?
Are the males and female usually within sight of each other?
What are you feeding them?
How old are they? (or how long have you had them?)




For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

10 gallon, no, frozen bloodworms, freeze dried bloodworms, betta flakes, betta pellets, had them about 2 months, fem and bubblenest builder male bought at wal mart, other two males from lfs.

hood, light, fake plants, bottom filter with one bubble per sceond, plastic cups to build nest on.....

BTW, the fem paradise is 2 inches long..

Last edited by ladiejl at 12-Dec-2005 07:58

it takes me many weeks to get a pair of bettas to spawn, it takes alot of waiting, now, the pair u said get along, just keep doing water changes on them, they should spawn in a week or 2 if all goes to plan

just be patient

(sorry cant help with they other fishies)

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but other than that it does take time, the most common mistake is people read it is easy and expect it to happen very quickly.

their is a pre-spawning condition set to take if u did not do already, which can get them into the mood, but their are other ways to make them in them mood.

for example try leaves, almond leaves have taken the betta world by storm, and it is great for breeding bettas, if u can not find any, i sometimes use banana leaves, but this lowers the ph make the percent of more females in the spawn increase.


with paradice fish, pretty much like bettas, to me it soundsl ike these fish are not conditioned, (but maybe u did, but i would make it longer)

just back to bettas, 1 gal containers is good for 2 weeks and let them see eachother, than add some of her water to his everyday and he should start building a nest.

a bypass to this is add another male into the breeding tank in a container and have the female in the tank, and this should bring up an instinct to breed/protect his area.

Paradise fish are extremely easy to breed but it sounds like your female is too young or not conditioned well enough. If he's stressing her out she also won't be in good condition for breeding which is why keeping a male and female paradise in the same tank doesn't always work so well. It always worked best for me to either keep them seperate and then move the female to the males tank with plenty of hiding places on the opposite side from his bubble nest or put both in a large container(40-60gallons). Mine all bred at low temperatures(74-78F). None of my tanks or containers had heaters. They are more of a cooler water fish and won't mind if their tank temp drops down into the 60s. The fry do hatch and grow faster at higher temps though.

Last edited by sham at 13-Dec-2005 00:11

OK, for the bettas, you need a large plastic coke bottle.

Chop the bottom off it and use a soldering iron to burn some holes in it to allow the male to "smell" her. This is pretty important

Put the male in the 10 gallon, and leave him there for 2 days by himself, then add the cone and add the female, and continue conditioning them for about a week, maybe more.
When the female is full of eggs and dancing with her head down, then you can let her go, but not before.

You need to build up that passion to nest if they know they can have each other, they don't get nearly as excited about the whole thing


The tank should be at about 84*F, and if you can, I'd get rid of any gravel and run a sponge filter, as the UGF can trap eggs and fry in the substrate and make it hard for the male to pick them up.

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

There is not a substrate in the tank. The tank is set at 83. I have added another male in a breeder net but still nothing. How else do you condition them with food? Can you only use live black worms? If so, I can forget about breeding them. I am soooo afraid of worms.

One male, she has torn his tail up. Another swims happily along with her in perfect harmony. The other could care less.

There is of course the possibility that the female just has her fins crossed

You can use any meaty food to condition, frozen bloodworm or something? you could get by with brine shrimp and pellets, but the meatier worms seem to do well. Earthworm flakes are also an option


For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Frozen adult brine shrimp don't seem to have much nutritional value to them compared to some other foods. They are good for variety but I've never had a fish condition well on mostly brine shrimp. Frozen bloodworms and freeze dried foods have always worked much better.

Except for those darn sparkling gouramis who refuse to even make bubblenests despite displaying and arguing over the females. I love the colors they have now from all the frozen foods I've filled them with but I wish they'd also make some baby sparkling gouramis.

my secret food for fatting up female bettas is color bits from tetra, they are alittle large so hopefully u have a female that can eat them.

~with this it is kinda messy make sure to do water changes. but this i have found to fatten the girls up fast.

i dont use live foods, and found it really uness. but still good, try frozen blood worms for the guys, and girls if u want

Well, they should always be conditioned then. I feed them freeze dried and frozen bloodworms and pellets as well.

Anyone have a pic of new eggs in a bubble nest??