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BlackNeonFerret
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I know with bettas there are all these different tail variations, but is one more common that the other?

In my LFS there were three bettas for sale, 2 White ones, and i don't know the name of the tale, but they looked like this: http://watershed3.tripod.com/white.JPG

And were being sold for £2.50 each.

The betta i bought however was a crowntail, and he was £6.99 The lady at the shop also said they didn't order crowntails in very often.

Are crowntails rarer than veiltails or something?

He's a beautiful betta, and i don't regret getting him, but i was just wandering why he was so much more expensive.

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That looks like a veil tail. i know around me in the states, the shops just receive whatever the supplier sends, most of the time its just veils. but now and then they get crowns.

But whitey here was my favorite veil tail http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/monkeyboy000/Whitey-10-28-04_03.jpg

but Oscar here was a Crown tail, was my favorite of all my fishes. and he took no crap from anybody http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/monkeyboy000/oscar-05-29-05_2.jpg

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Because people pay it

CTs are pretty big business, as they can produce for the breeder/hobbyist market and just drop the excess in the pet market, so its win/win for the commercial breeders. Over here, the wholesale price of the CTs is less than that of the VT because there is/was a glut in the Thai market. They overproduced the CTS and couldn't move them, so they were pretty much giving them away. I'd imagine that it had a flow-on effect so that the wholesale price difference between the CT and VT is pretty minimal everywhere.

But see, everyone knows VTs, and knows how cheap they are, and CTs are a bit newer and less common in shops (people don't recognise the name or don't want 'fancy' bettas) so they can charge silly prices for them.

Over here, the CT price a while back was about $2.80 wholesale, and people were charging in excess of $15! OUCH! Even funnier (to me anyway, I am easily amused ), nice-looking versions of relatively average fish were popping up on the breeder market for over $30. The amateur breeders were determined the price issues wouldn't apply to them!


So yes, in the retail market they are a bit rarer, but in general no.


I like CTs though, great little fish


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Ah, that's why then. Oh well, i would rather have my beauty that one of the veil tails! It amuses me though, in the shop, my betta was sold as a crowntail betta, and the VTs Siamese Fighting fish.

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good to be back,(haven't been around in awhile)

anyway, just some of my notesof course varies on location and other factors)

like calla, said crown tails is a deep market, and price varies alot. cheaper crowns are usually very poor quality, and than more expencive are can range for 100 + usd. as some great crown tails are cross tails, and mutli ray cts, and of course with alot of color varities.

so price is a hard issue to determine, as in wholesale, alot of poor Q cts are sold as low as .25 the same with VTs, but good CT will cost you.

not sure what this thread was really about, but if u want to know anything else just let me know.
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Depends on the store too. Most places sell only viels, but some stores get in Crowns and sell them for the same price. They are usually on the small side, so I agree that its probubly just breeders getting rid of extra stock. But thats how I got Smokey (Blue/Grey mixed crown) so I can't complain.

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BettaChris: I wanted to know if crowntails were rarer than veiltails.

And actually, there is something else i'd like to know...

I have heard bettas are known to attack snails, and my tank is infested, so, on average, do they? (please!)

(i actually want it to attack the snails)

Also, when he was at the shop, he shoved himself under a rock that was flat on the ground, and when the shop lady picked the rock up, he swum out, flared at her, and swam off to hang with th 0.2 inch pygmy corys. I was wandering how on earth he managed to wedge himself under a flat rock?

Thanks.
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My bettas havent attacked snails. I keep apples with them. But then again, my tank is big.

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when you go to go, you will go anywhere, so it is possible for him to hide under a rock.

as with beeing rare, generally there is no rare betta tail type, colors are more rare.

cts are just as common as veils, but in lfs veils are just cheaper to get, and thats why they seem more common.
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they can eat snails, sometimes pretty effectively, but it depends on the type of snail, how big their jaw is, and if they have any desire to attack a snail. Most common ones i've heard of doing it are the larger females in community tanks.

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thanks. He's really mellow. He tryed to eat a snail but he spat it back out again.
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Crowntails are less common than veils. The veiltail is the streotypical betta so it is what everyone gets. They were the first fancy tail type so they are bred by more commercial breeders. The crowntails are newer so they aren't bred is the large numbers. That my not be a glut in the CT market-it may be the breeders catching up with the demand for CTs.

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