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Oh. I would like to kno also what water level is ideal in the tanks?

I live in Wangaratta victoria.

what stat town are you in so that i can tell what the sesones are like to give you the best info that i know.
I live in shepparton central vic it very cold in winter gets to minus 2 or 3, in summer it get over 40 so iknow i need a heater in wnter.

well seeing as it is winter here ( but its heading soon into spring where he really will thrive) we have the wood fire going on at night time so it is the perfect conditons for him. It slowing get around the high 60's to 70's. in the morning it is colder but it slowing warms up as welh as we have the elecric heater going. we start it up about 7.00 or earlier if we have to get up before that. If left on for about 2hrs the water will get to about 70F. He is also very active most of the time exept when i first get up. I thought about getting a heater for him but aqs we are going into spring and the weather is beginning to become fine. I will think about getting a heater for next winter.
Sorry about the long message.
Oh i also decided to call my betta Showie as he shows of to the other fish in the tank beside him.

I don't really have a good name suggestion, I just had a question about something you said...

"The temp of the water during the day is 63"F ( which i have read is ok ) and the room temp is 65"F
At night the tank water is 67"F and outside is about 69"F."

...it's warmer at night than during the day?

PM/email/msg me if you have any questions/comments regarding me or my knowledge or if you want me to read a thread.

yes it is normal for your betta to swim at the top of your tank.he is a labrinth fish afterall.
good luck with him


peter

Yeah thats a good one - anyone got any other ideas ?

bowzer

I put my betta in his tank today !]
He is a blue and red male.
I have to think of a name so anyone with ideas pleasse let me kno !
Also is it normail for him to swim at the top on the first day ?

Ok shall leave as is.

no b/c gold fish will bit the bettas fins off. so they wouldn't mix.

I REALLY want to keep a betta. I have a temporary home - a 1.57g tank but will eventually put him in a 3.88g. I have to questions about this.
Question 1.
Is 2"F change during day and night to high for the betta to handle ?
Question 2.
I have goldies at this temp. Can betta go in with these guys ?

Ok i shall put my betta friend in the one gallon i have had set up for a few days now. He should be fine there.

this is a repeat of another thread I participated in, but the info still applies:

I started out with goldies in a ten gallon way back when, Don't feel too bad, everyone does it, we just don't know better. The truth about goldies is that they are VERY BIG, the body of a full grown fancy goldfish is about the size of a grapefruit, and then they've got those long flowy fins that add inches to their size, the commons get about 2 feet long with proper care. They are related to the common carp, after all They are also poop machines, excreting a tonne more waste than the average fishy, especially ammonia, which get's really tricky because it is clear and you can't tell when this poison is building up in your water without a test kit. Fish that are kept in too small of tanks get stunted, and malformed, their insides keep growing but their bodies don't. I saw this really sad looking fish at the LFS the other day, it was a common, and it's back was all humped and misshapen because it was stunted, and it's eyes were bulging like crazy. That being said, fancy goldies are also wonderful pets if you can care for them properly! I kep them myself, and I absolutely love them. They have personality, are beautiful, and can live over 20 years if cared for properly! You can't beat that in a fish

here are some more great sites with good info:

KoKo's Goldfish world

Goldfish Paradise Society

and last but not least, a picture of bruce the oranda, a BIG fishy!

as for goldies and bettas, don't do it. the betta will kick your goldies butt or vice versa. How do I know? I tried it a while ago never again....

Just put your betta in its own small tank. A 1.5-3 gallon if fine.

Generally goldies and Bettas should be kept seperate and there are reasons for this. Goldies produce a lot of ammonia and that ammonia can burn your bettas fins, leaving you with a betta with fin rot.

Also, 3.88 gal is too small for even one goldfish. There are other people on these boards that will be able to give you more detailed advice regarding that.

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Do you have 2 goldfish in a 3 gallon?! Bad bad bad bad. They need a minimum of 125 gallons. A betta will fit in the 3 gallon tank only if its by its self. And bettas need temps in the mid to upper 70's to be happy.



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Now i have my goldies at this temperature as well so will the betta be able to go in with these ?

Cool thanks guys.
I will set up my tank today and leave it to get to room temp and get a betta next week ! I can't wait i am so exited !
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3.88 gallon: 2 goldies

they should be fine, as long as it is a gradual change that occurs throughout the day. Fish in the wild are never in water that is always the same temperature, and even though bettas are far from wild (like the fishy equivalent of a toy poodle) they should definitely be able to handle it.