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fishyhelper288 Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | hmm some of your info is iffy, like when i bred my pair the male and female were completely gental with eachother, not a ripped fin ect.. and i could have left the female in with him, because they were both tending the nest, and i saw a completely diffrence in another pair where the male just wanted to rip inti her and insted of paper, try plastic wrap |
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angeleel Fish Addict Posts: 561 Kudos: 472 Votes: 61 Registered: 08-Feb-2005 | I agree with bettachris, you should use paper to cover the tank not plastic wrap, that causes heat in the bowls. I'm sure weather in your area effects it a bit. IMO ANGEL EEL |
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ontariobetta Enthusiast Posts: 227 Kudos: 243 Votes: 2 Registered: 17-Jul-2004 | How I breed: -get 2gal container, fill with water (floated in a larger tank to keep warm) -Add nest anchor -No plants, no filters, no meds -add male and female -leave and don't come back for a few hours. -Usually by the time i come back they are spawning. But ya, there are so many diff ways, and every betta is different! ashley |
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Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001 | there are tons of ways, and it will depend on your setup, conditioning, and guts (as to how much fighting you will allow before you separate) I have friends who leave the parents in all the time while rising the fry, I have let some other parents foster the eggs, i've even artificially hatched a few spawns when fish got too muchy. everyone will have their own method. The Thai method is rather hands off while the American method controls a lot more of the variables, and strangely, they do often end up with similar size and vitality of spawns Read all you can My best tip would be to use a piece of bubblewrap instead of the half cup, it helps the nest stay together if your humidity drops (if you take the lid of and chase the female around for ages trying to get her out, for example!) |
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zebra Fish Master Posts: 1671 Kudos: 291 Votes: 37 Registered: 08-Oct-2001 | yes-- this is why i am breeding my bettas this week because its spring break and im out of school until next tuesday- so when i release her i can watch!!! -kristin ~!!I lOve LiFe!!~ |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | again you should really let your female go in the morning, this way u can watch them. if u don't have the time, then breeding should be put off until u can make time. again i do control breeding where the female doesn't get hurt, or very little. so please watch your bettas. |
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fishyhelper288 Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | ok, i guess its ok for beginers im on my next pair, and i have had them together for a few hours (put them together last night) this morn i see the female hiding, a single egg on the floor of the tank, but no eggs in the nest:#( grrr i hate the buddy, buddy pairs but im gunna leave them together untill i see fry then the female can go back to bossing the fish in the 29 gallon again i think i fell asleep watching them last night btu no ripped fins ect |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | also this is very VERY basic. there are many ways of breeding bettas. that is a form of the american way, where there is a asian way(not trying to say that one is right and the other is wrong). i know alittle of the asian way: get a clay pot 2. feed breeders worms for 1-2 weeks 3. add any leaves to the tank(banana,almond,bamboo etc.) 4. put in a fresh leaf to float. 5. lower water level to only 2-3 inches. 6. add the male and female together 6a. (you can add more than one female) 7. cover the pot with a cover 8. leave fish in there until a few days(checking on them) 9. remove the female when spawn 10. follow the first way etc. there are many other ways of doing it, as for example when people breed game plakats, they let the females fight and the males fight so that the best fighters can be seen. a way to find out the male to breed with, some people have there females in a large tank and they add the male in a bottle, so that the female that bars up and swims in the mating ritual is the female they use to breed with. i once artificaly breed bettas. you can do it that way also. |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | well every male and female betta is different. show you will have gentle breeders, and then you will have some that want to fight eachother. now the reasons can be the personallity, or a young and inexperienced partner. i to have had a gentle betta spawn. so breeders will let them stay together,(but it is a 50 -50 risk) i don't find if nesscary to take the chance. in the wild most of the wild males will chase the females away from the breeding site. like i said results will vary from fish to fish, and pair to pair. |
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Ashneil Hobbyist Posts: 124 Kudos: 119 Votes: 17 Registered: 04-Feb-2005 | I Think The Info Is Alrite For Begginers. |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | if u want to breed bettas, ask your self a few Q. 1)time 2)money if u said yes to both then, u are ready to breed. first go out an get yourself a 10-5 gallon tank. 2. go get a male, and female betta 3. fix the tank up in standard form.( plants,*bare bottom*, sponge filter, heater, driftwood[opition]) 4. have two bowls for ur bettas to live in. 5. go to a hardware store and get the following: glass lamp cover.(this cylinder will protect your female) also get styro cups as well as tape. 6. feed your bettas (espaially the female high fatty foods) such as worms. 7. change the tank water in the breeding tank, and add the (half cut styro cup) and tape it to the side of the tank, and put the glass lamp cover in the tank. 8. [works with me] the day b4 u put ur bettas together in the breeding tank***put them next to eachother so they can see eachother and do a little water change. 9. put the breeders into the tank, male into the breeding tank, and female in the glass lamp cover. 10. allow up to a week for the male to build a nice big nest(however some males build a bigger nest than others.[some males dont build a nest b4 they spawn and they build one then they are mating]) 11. after the male has built a nest the female shoud have vertical bars. 12. release the female into the tank, * she may have her vertical stirpes go away and then "fear stripes" appear or the horizantal lines. 12a. if this happens then i might be a good idea to put her back into the glass lamp cover. 13. if you leave her in the tank the male will bite her, or even sometimes kill her(rare), but it sounds worest than it looks(the female may spalsh and hit the glass, but the male isn't really biting her.) 14. within hours or days if everything is working good, she will swim head down toward the male(even if he bites her, she should come back again and again) at this point the female(if older and more expresenced will start pushing the male in like a slapping motion). she will sone start nuging him in a circle so that they can wrap. 15. the pair after some unsecessful trys make a good wrap around each other and look like they are dead, but will then start to go down and pick up some eggs(if fallen)(usually the males are first to move[but not always]). 15a. (other ways) the female may release eggs, but the male may go and build the nest not get the eggs.[this isn't always bad.] most females will put the eggs back into the nest, but then there are some that will eat eggs(rare) 16. after hours of wrapping the male or female will dicide to end spawning and you will start to see the male being aggressive toward the female(and this time it is for real). 17. take out female without harmming the nest and put the female into clean water, with meds if needed. 18. the male will "hold the eggs in his mouth" for a few seconds, but that is only to put spit back on them to a. clean them, b. make them easier to stick in the nest. 19. depending on the temp of the water, the fry should hatch out in 2- 5 days. at which time it is import to leave a light on so that the male can see the little fry. there will be fry on the bottom of the tank, but depending on the male he may or not pick them up. 19a. some males will reject the nest. for a couple of reasons. 1)young male. 2) there is something wrong with the eggs. 19b. some males may eat the eggs b/c the are infected, or the male is unexpreienced. 20. when the nest is no longer gone and the fry are free swimming and the male is losing interset, then it is a good idea to take him out and put him in his own tank with med(if needed), and feed him. 21. (your turn) the tank should be covered with paper etc. this will allow the drafts from not killing the fry. 22. the plants in the tank (if live) should provide there first meal. but when they are about 5-7 days free swimming, feed them baby brine shrimp.[u should make ur bbs when the fry are 1 day old[not free swimimg]] 23. alittle water changes can be done when the fry are alittle larger and try makeing alittle destrubence as possible. [important, keep the water nice, by adding new water every day, not alot so that the ph does not alter the fry. i.e missing vertrails. 24. when the fry are about a month old or younger and they are growing, try carefully moveing the fry into a large tank. try new foods. 25. when the fry are around three months old, you can now start taking out the males and giving them bowls to live in. 26. keep jarring the fry. 27. the bettas are now done being fry. 28. 4-5 months later the process starts over again. now this is good, but i forgot some other important steps. *trouble shooting* * some females male attack the males, or some males may be over agressive. in this case it is a good idea to terminate the spawning and try new fish. * you will lose fry. that the way it is. it is ok to lose maybe 1-5 fry aday, but if 20-30 then u have a problem with the water. *ph plays an important role is the sex of the betta. low ph is more females and high ph is more males. *sizes, try breeding bettas with the same sizes. *if the males dies, then lower the water, and put an air stone in the water on low(depending on the size of the fry) this is artifical breeding. feed the fry first bites, and add water every day, only alittle. there are probably alot of other stuff i missed, but that is the basic's. Last edited by bettachris at 22-Mar-2005 15:27 |
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Ashneil Hobbyist Posts: 124 Kudos: 119 Votes: 17 Registered: 04-Feb-2005 | kk nice pics and really helpful:88) |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | spawning= breeding. i dont get it? what are u trying to say. |
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Ashneil Hobbyist Posts: 124 Kudos: 119 Votes: 17 Registered: 04-Feb-2005 | that is really nice! one question what is spwaning? |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | another angle bettachris attached this image: |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | and a spawning embrace. bettachris attached this image: |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | this is a breeding female pic. one of my favorite of all times female. bettachris attached this image: |
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bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 | and pics, this one is a spawning tank set up. bettachris attached this image: |
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Ashneil Hobbyist Posts: 124 Kudos: 119 Votes: 17 Registered: 04-Feb-2005 | I Totally Agree With This Topic It Is Really Helpful! Good Job Chris |
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