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SubscribeENDLER HELP THERE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
angeleel
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Hello I have posted about my pregnant Endlers (2)

One is HUGE and starting to float on the bottom almost looking to heavy for herself, also her (sorry don't know what to say) butthole is slightly swollen?? I do have a pic, they are not the bes but you can see what she is doing and what she looks like.


http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/westcoastchoppers4602/album?.dir=f173&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

She is prego right???

COuld It be something else??

Also with her bum swelling outwards, should something be done to help that?


Well any help would be sooo good,

Thanks a ton
Angel Eel

Last edited by angeleel at 24-May-2005 12:03

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well wif no experience wif this fish, but plenty wif swordtails and guppies, i agree, she looks pregnant
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hmm, im not sure whats wrong with her, almost sounds like, (A) she is feeling prego, or, (B)she is getting ready to give birth.

but she is deff prego, and how long has she been suffering (well, not exactly seffering) from that bent spine?
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That started from being prego..... only in the last week or two it started.


The last time these two had babys they didnt have the spine but that can come as to having babys.

As well for the last time they didn't look as big, thats why it has me in a worry.


One started that nose dive swim in the last two days, does that mean she is close??

I have done a slight water change everyday, and have the temp one degree higher then normal should I raise it a bit more now??


Well thanks for the help

Angel Eel
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She's definately pregnant, and chances are she's very close. When they sink to the bottom and try and hide, it's close. Just keep doing what you're doing, only time will tell.

As for the spine, i've never seen a fish do that when they were pregnant... she'll probably be like that after birth too, but only time will tell. Just try and ease stress on her with hiding spots to make her feel comfy, and also for fry to hide in
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I read in a few sites that old female livebearers will sometimes after many fry births will get a spine bend, I don't know if its true

I did see one of my old swordtails get a bent spine after like 7 batches.



I never seen it with the endlers though..


Any help on this?

Angel Eel
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my female endler/guppy was like this, pergant for around 6 months but this weekend she died,i heard that if they dont release fry they die and kill the mother? but not pointing fingers just yet.
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Be extra careful in the maintenence of that one fish tank and in washing your hands etc. A severely bent spine like that is one sign of tuberculosis, which is one of the few diseases that fish can transmit to humans. Do not perform tank maintenece on that tank if you have any cuts on your hands etc.

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ps. ditto everyone else just really pregnant and needs somewhere to hide, some java moss or whatnot. She'll be dropping fry soon.

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THEY ARE HAVING THEM RIGHT NOW 4 so far 3 eatin.

I didnt think they ate there young but they do I watched it




ANgel Eel

Should I seperate them??? the two girls???? Its the one not having the babys eating them


Is there a makeshift breeder I can make to seperate them???



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Wow, I'm surprised they're eating them, Endler's aren't known to do that.

If you want to keep the fry see if you can catch them and put them in a plastic container that you float in the tank. It may not be ideal but at least they'll be safe.

I have a hybrid cichlid fry in a setup like this, I just took this pic to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. I have tank water in there, a bit of gravel, and some tiny floating plants. He gets fed 3-4 times a day and I have to do daily water changes to remove leftover food and waste.

Good luck

Theresa_M attached this image:


edit: didn't notice the curious platy fry until after I posted this

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Congrats on the births, hopefully you have been able to savel some of them./:'


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Congratulations on the new babiesNew fry are always fun

I usually add Anacharis plant some and float some...the fry will hide in what is floating, and be able to swim, when that time comes in what is planted...helps keep them safe so they can hide...

And I agree none of my livebearers have been big on eating their fry:%)and I have to admit at times it would be nicebut, sometimes the first batch or two can be eaten, and then after that it's like the mother says, forget it just get away from me KTS and her family has figured that one out when Sunshine gave birth this weekend and now there are round about 30 fry swimming around...apparently dad put momma into a birthing net thingy and she gave up and bailed out of the net not wanting to be in there any longer

Congratulations...heidi

EDIT: to feed them, just take your normal flakes and grind them in a ziplock bag to dust, and sprinkle lightly...hml

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Thanks alot guys!!!

They are swimming along with the bigger fish now and doing well, the breeder was to hard to maintain.


Thanks again.
ANgel Eel
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I'm glad that they are doing good

It is the one reason why I gave up on the smaller containers to hold fry in:%)the upkeep is just too hard in my opinion, and letting them swim around with everyone else is great...

Again congratulations!!!

heidi

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