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The java moss still too thick? I tried removing a little, but thats how I got it from the website I ordered(what I thought to be a well respected site). and yes, I removed all the rockwool from the hairgrass...I will try to seperate it, but I don't know if I can tonight, got hw to do, I've spent all day on the tank

If it's emmersed growth that's dying off, let it die. When it starts to die, but before it turns brown, yank it out if you can. I don't know the texture of hair grass so maybe you can't. But if you can, get rid of that stuff before it turns brown and rots. Take it out from as far down as you can, dont just break off the tips. Try to keep it clean and it should grow back healthier.

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How long has the tank been running and what do you have in the tank other than the plants?

My Scapes

so when do you think I should add ottos? and how many?

Lookin_around,



Looking good ...

Now let's make sure your plants grow nicely and watch the show

Ingo

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The lower parts of my Wysteria look like that, I think its because they wern't getting enough light initally and it caused them to morph to a broader leaf to collect more light, but once they got to the top of my tank they look like proper wysteria. I added another light to mine and it shot off like a weed grew a good inch last night.

Hey all....just a little update. I spread the hairgrass as tetratech suggested, and I also moved the anubias as little_fish suggested.
Once other thing I did, was I tried to dig out some of the gravel under the arch on the DW, and moved the crypt over a few inches.
Tank


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Hmm...good idea, I will have to try it after school sometime...haha, can't miss 2 days in a row

Lookin_around,

I love your crypt. So full and so many leaves. When I got mine there were maybe 5 leaves on each plant.

Initially, I thought that the spot where you put the Anubias was very good, as it gives the tank some height. But then I thought some more and changed my mind. In the long run, wouldn’t the plants behind the wood generate the height and would the Anubias cover them up? Hard to tell, only the future will show. I thought that a better spot for it would be on the lower part of the wood on the right side. There, the plant would be able to receive some shade and add a different leaf shape to the vals.

EDIT: Don't get mad at the site that sold you the hairgrass. Almost all is grown emersed (cheaper to grow), and so are a lot of plants. You would have to explicitly ask for the growth form to be told about it.

Ingo

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I don't know how it works, so far it looks like it is. I see bubbles go up the tube, but don't see them come back into the tank. It hasn't been setup long enough for me to measure my co2 though. I had bought some air diffusers from wal-mart when I had an UGF, and they had these little plastic pieces that came with them, and I am using one of those, so with the airline on it, it holds itself in place, in the wisteria picture you can sorta see it. I am also using the same plastic pieces in my lids on my 2-liter bottles, with no glue! and its airtight, because of the little lip that goes around it is on the inside, so the more pressure thats exerted on it, the more "airtight" it gets. We'll see how it works in the long run.
The Hairgrass was just over 3 dollars a pot. So it was about 20 dollars for 6 pots, but they were grown emersed, and I was unaware of it, and was not told of this on the website I ordered them from. If they survive they will look quite nice IMO.
Only time will tell

How is the DIT CO2 doing running it through your filter? If it works well I might have to try it. Right now I am using a bell diffuser but I don't like the looks of it. I also might be picking up a power head just to add some flow to the tank. Did you punch a hole in your intake or do you just have it set up so it sucks the CO2 into it?

How much was your hair grass. I might have to see if I can find my self some. (This stuff spreads around right?)

Edit: Are you using a whisper filter?

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Hey, thnx to everyone for your help. I finally planted my 29 today, and skipped school to do it. The package was supposed to be here yesterday, but no one was home to pick it up, so I went and got at 7 this morning, and just finished. Tell me what you guys think. I still need to get my Crypt Wendti(brown) plants, and my anubias nana from the LFS, so its not quite finished.
whole tank
Ludwigia Repens
Wisteria
Dwarf Hairgrass, Java moss, and Corkscrew vals


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Lookin_around,

Nice setup I think when your plants grow in especially with alot of moss on that driftwood it's going to look really good, but there's a couple of things I thing you should do.

1. As Littlefish pointed out that javamoss is way to thick and it looks half dead. If possible I will try removing some of the brown stuff so light could get to the green stuff.

2. You cut the emersed growth, good. You should really separate each grouping and make three smaller groupings and spread them around. They will get more light and produce runners faster. Also did you remove that brown cottony material the roots were in. If not, that should be removed very carefully and then you could separate as I said into three groups.

My Scapes

Ok, went to the LFS, and they only had one crypt wendti left, because the lady before me bought the others. When I told the LFS lady what I wanted she said "You actually know what they're all called" lol....goes to show how much they know. Well, I just got the one crypt, and the anubias nana, but I am unsure of where to put the anubias. What do you guys think, my orginal plan was to put it on the nub sticking out on the right side of the driftwood, but if you see a spot that you think would be better, plz let me know, thnx.
Tank shot 2

Edit: just found a spot I like...here it is
Tank shot 3, with anubias

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Ok, just looked, and yes, they are all wisteria. Towards the bottom of that stem, the leave look more "wisteria" like.
I will trim the hairgrass, and see what happns I guess

Megil told you what the criteria for emersed growth identification is.

For the plant, in mean the one in the image below. It seems to have a different leaf shape than the stem on the left. On the other hand, my eyes are a little hazy today, too much reading .

Ingo

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EDIT: Now I didn't see your response -- I would say that you should try to find out if it helps to prune them (to about 1/2 an inch), otherwise they will have to make it on their own.

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Ahh, ok...I was wondering what those were. So is there anything special I have to do to them to help them survive?

You can tell the Hairgrass is emersed becuase of the seed pods
at the tips(the brown fuzzies). they will only germinate above the surface.

Megil.

Lol....heres my stats
29 gallon
65 watt PC
Regular gravel substrate, but I added some seachem tabs
Dosinglantex CSM+b, KNo3, Kh2po4
DIY co2- two 2-liter bottles, into HOB filter

I think thats about it

Edit:didn't see littlefish's post.

Moss- I didn't have a lot of thread, so that is why it is thick, I plant to get more sometime today to spread out.

Hairgrass-How can you tell its an emersed plant. A little info plz.

And yes, the crypts will go where the wood is off the gravel, and anubias on the wood

Wisteria- Not sure what is next to it, looks like wisteria to me.

Last edited by lookin_around at 16-Nov-2005 12:42

Lookin_around,

Very Nice, I like it, I can imagine how the wisteria will grow tall on the left while the Ludwigia will fill up the right (to middle) and the tall Vals all the way on the right, with a lovely lawn of hairgrass in the front.

Nevertheless, I have a few questions, comments:

- It seems that you made the Moss rather thick when you tied it to the wood. Keep an eye on it as the lower parts may die off and then the whole set comes lose. Are you planning to cover the entire wood with it? Would look nice .
- Be prepared that a lot of the grass will die off as it seems to be emersed growth. It will come back though, if the light is ok. I am not sure but I believe to have read that one should cut it short as to not waste any plant energy on the existing emersed leaves.
- What is that single stem plant next to the Wisteria?
- Where will the Crypt and the Anubias go? I guess Anubias on the wood and Crypt in front?

Overall, seems to be a nice tank when all is settled in, have fun with it.

Ingo

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