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It sure does look like a fish. I would have to guess that it is a guppy. If not then it would probably be a shrimp.

The rock and riccia work in this tank is really great! You have done a great job with it.

I also think that the group of stems is too big for the tank. I thnk you need a smaller plant.

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Thanks for the comments. Yes it is a guppy, I have about 4 fancy guppy fry swimming around in there temporarily.

The rotala leaves are a little big, but I used leftovers from the 72g and didn't buy anything specifically for the tank. Acutally the placment of the rotala is a little different but it's supposed to be the edge of higher ground over looking a lower area. Maybe that's not communicated effectively. Otherwise the rotala would have been placed more in the left back.

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The minor thing that somehow makes the intend of the Rotala dissapear is maybe the 2 foremost short stems. I think if you would remove them (or better the taller ones behind them and then place the short ones in their position) you would have somewhat of a gap between the front rock and the group. But maybe this is just my thinking without actually seeing the tank.

Ingo

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I think I'd like the rotala in there if they were overlooking the larger rock behind them. I really like this tank though. Very interesting.

Did the nana petite go?

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Thanks for the comments. Yeah still playing around with it. I think this tweak below talks more to the edge of cliff over meadow I was kinda going for:



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That was almost exactly what I was thinking. Looks great

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That does look better.

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That is a very nice shot, it could be easily made of a 20G Long

It looks very good, with one exception: The rock in the back left seems to fall backwards out of the landscape (aquascape). It somehow feels detached from the rest (to me, that is).

Otherwise, just beautiful

Ingo

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It looks very good, with one exception: The rock in the back left seems to fall backwards out of the landscape (aquascape). It somehow feels detached from the rest (to me, that is).

So hard to please!

Are you talking about the middle rock or the long one toward the front?

Here's a closeup shot of rock and shrimp:



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So hard to please!

Yeah, it drives me nuts too

I mean this rock in the picture. Do you see how it appears to be behind everything, even the lawn? As if it would not be part of the scape.

Ingo

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Behind The Scene

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I mean this rock in the picture. Do you see how it appears to be behind everything, even the lawn? As if it would not be part of the scape.

O.K. I would have never guessed that was the rock you were talking about, but now I could understand why you would mention that. When looking at the pic of the whole scape it appears that rock is sitting out there detached from the other rock group, but in reality the riccia valley runs through the gap and creates more depth. I'll have to show more pics I guess.

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I'll have to show more pics I guess.

Shweet. Good job LF

Very nice shot of the shrimp there tetratech. BTW, I'm (they are) still working on getting you some more shrimps. It looks like the second batch hatched out.

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Shweet. Good job LF

Very nice shot of the shrimp there tetratech. BTW, I'm (they are) still working on getting you some more shrimps. It looks like the second batch hatched out.

Everyone's got baby shrimp but me.

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Shweet. Good job LF

Very nice shot of the shrimp there tetratech. BTW, I'm (they are) still working on getting you some more shrimps. It looks like the second batch hatched out.

Everyone's got baby shrimp but me.


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I've only ever seen pics of females from you tetratech, so either you like to take pics of the red one, or you only have females, which is possible, because in stores they tend to only sell the red ones, the females. That could easily contribute to your lack of baby shrimps.

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I've only ever seen pics of females from you tetratech, so either you like to take pics of the red one, or you only have females, which is possible, because in stores they tend to only sell the red ones, the females. That could easily contribute to your lack of baby shrimps.

Your spot on Matty. Both of my cherries are bright red. I was actually going to buy a batch online.

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I wouldn't mind if tetratech shows us more pictures, I haven't seen the big tank in quite a while now

Yeah, I guess having only females doesn't help in the reproduction scheme

Ingo

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Yeah, I guess having only females doesn't help in the reproduction scheme

There are programs out there to help with such thinigs...

Tetra,
If you want we could work something for some shimp. PM me if you want to.

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To watch a slideshow of the latest pics, click the link below. I made some adjustments with the rock arrangement and I'm starting to really like it. Here's the link to a pic. Sorry I have to pull a Wings on yeah. Wings, tempting offer on the CRS.

http://community.webshots.com/slideshow/559047676FRonaT?mediaPosition=2&track_pagetag=/page/photo/goodtimes/friendsfun&track_action=/Owner/Shortcuts/Slideshow

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Very psychedelic tetratech!

Looking at the slide show zooms in and our made me dizzy

Otherwise, is that the process on how we are going to see your tanks in the future or is it only temporary?

Ingo

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Sorry I have to pull a Wings on yeah. Wings, tempting offer on the CRS.

Hey! I am known for something around here! Just let me know if you want some shrimp. It would be my first shrimp ship but I think I know how to do it.

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Looking at the slide show zooms in and our made me dizzy

I think if you click on a pic in the slideshow it will go to still images of the album.

Wings, thanks I'll let you know about the shrimpsters...

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Nano Update.

A little beach action!

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2541117040048205226sSmhrQ

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2702410190048205226jKYnpD

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A little beach action!

I actually expected a surf board,

Anyway, I think the beach makes the tank look smaller than the full green area. Somehow, the rocks seem larger (and what is that gray rock on the right?) than before as well.

Otherwise, still looking rather large for a 5G, and healthy on top of it. Did you strip some Riccia of some of the smaller rocks?

Ingo

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Anyway, I think the beach makes the tank look smaller than the full green area. Somehow, the rocks seem larger (and what is that gray rock on the right?) than before as well.

I think the gray rock isn't as "water aged" as the other ones so it appears lighter.

Otherwise, still looking rather large for a 5G, and healthy on top of it. Did you strip some Riccia of some of the smaller rocks?

Actually the smaller rocks were taken out of the 72g where the rocks had been somewhat shaded. They should green up nicely within a week or so. This tank for some reason is very difficult to photograph. I don't know if it's the curved cheap acrylic or what, but it looks really good in real life.

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but it looks really good in real life

I know how that feels tetratech, I also think that the distortion form the curved acrylic and the surface of the water do not favor the tank's true look.

So, how often do you change the layout of this tank, at least partially?

And how often do you have to trim the Riccia?

Ingo

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So, how often do you change the layout of this tank, at least partially?

Well let's see, the tanks been up since Mid March and I've changed it about 4 times, although none have been complete changes just moving some stuff around or replacing rock for the wood, etc.

And how often do you have to trim the Riccia?

I haven't yet, so that riccia's been growing in there for about 2 1/2 months. Obviously much slower than in the 72g.

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That's a nice low tech low maint tank then. I'm jealous. Nice work tetratech

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I really like the looks of that little tank. It's hard to believe it's only a 5g itty bitty thing. I'm just wondering whether evaporation isn't a big issue? The volume isn't that big and with a lamp right on the surface and no hood to speak off I can imagine that the water level drops considerably over a few nights? I just have to look at my own 65g tank and even with the top of the tank covered for 95% with glass, I can still see a lot of water evaporation, with the waterline dropping nearly an inch per week (I do have a couple of fans active there to get the heat out of the hood, they take a lot of the water out). Do you top it off every other day or so?

Thanks for the comments Dr. Bonke and Matty. Well the tank is in my kitchen within a few feet of my big tank, so I usually just take a large cup of water and top it off whenever I start to hear the HOB waterfall, but it's pretty much good for a week between topping.

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Just out of curiosity, tetratech:

Once you add sand to a tank, I assume the only way to revert back to a full set of the partial substrate would be a complete substrate redo, is that right?

I agree, in particular for a low low low maintenance tank this one is a beauty

Ingo

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Once you add sand to a tank, I assume the only way to revert back to a full set of the partial substrate would be a complete substrate redo, is that right?

Not necessarily, if your able to keep the two substrates separate via rocks, etc. you can just suck out the sand with a thin hose and replace with the original substrate. Also bottom dwellers that dig will mix the substrates somewhat as my kuhli loaches do.

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ah, makes sense

So, you divide your substrate from the sand with rocks all the way to the bottom of the tank?

Ingo

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So, you divide your substrate from the sand with rocks all the way to the bottom of the tank?

Now that being said, you will still get some mixing as I said from bottom dwellers and if your not careful during maintenance, etc. The kuhlis are the worst they poke through every hole between the rocks like eels and mix/stir things up. I clean my sand up once a week with a small hose as mentioned. The pool filter sand is so cheap that I have a bag in the garage and I just add more to freshen it up, as does all the advanced scapers before a photo op, so you get to see their pristine beachfronts.

O.K., here's another tweak and I'm pretty happy with it. I might experiment with a more grassy background plant. and yes it's pool filter sand.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/aquarium-pictures/files/1/8/9/5/IMG_9714crop_original.jpg




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You really didn't have to change much to make it much better. I really like it. The picture is much easier to see too!

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Ah,

Very nice, that is a sweet picture and even the counter top seems to fit in the overall arrangement. Lot's of depth, the big rock in the left back does not seem to be "behind" the scene, the beach looks good, all done!

Now, have you considered an even "thinner" stem plant for your forest on the left? Nothing specific comes to mind here though.

Ingo

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Very nice, that is a sweet picture and even the counter top seems to fit in the overall arrangement. Lot's of depth, the big rock in the left back does not seem to be "behind" the scene, the beach looks good, all done!

One of the ancillary benefits of having granite in the kitchen. You could match it to the rocks in your tank.
Anyway the additional rocks on the right I think really made the beach area more attractive and provided the extra detail.

Now, have you considered an even "thinner" stem plant for your forest on the left? Nothing specific comes to mind here though.

It's gonna have to be something really easy to maintain, maybe a tall chain sword or something, not sure yet.

Funny thing is I really didn't intend on starting this tank. I had so much riccia that I just took it out of the garage and threw in some clippings of rotala and it's just evolved.

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Tetratech , wow what a sensational little tank . Its given me some ideas about how I can convince the wife to let me have more tanks I love the scape as well very classy .
Garry

thanks Garry,

Here's the latest pic of the tank. Although I might change the background plant in the near future for now I added moer rotala to the right as well.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/aquarium-pictures/files/1/8/9/5/IMG_9865crop2_original.jpg

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I like it. Very nice!

I think the rotala on the right really added something that was missing.

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I think the rotala on the right really added something that was missing.

I think it adds to the 3-dimensionality of the tank, if that is a word,

Yup, looking sharp tetratech. I see the transition of this tank from once beeing flat (left to right) to great differences in height, this gives it the appearance of being even larger (increase of action surface).

What other plant for the right side do you have in mind?

Ingo

EDIT: This was the 100th post in this log. Remember the times when this seemed to be something special ?

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Thanks for those comments guys, not bad for an APCer

Yeah, I agree. I think without a physical reference it would be tough to tell what size tank this is. One thing I realize about my tanks is that I enjoy working with rock more than wood. I think probably because of it's ability to create great height and depth differences. Ideally the background plant would have finer leaves the rotala's are a bit big, but I really did make this tank from 72g leftovers, since I had so much Riccia. Speaking of Riccia I haven't trimmed it yet in this tank. One thing I'm glad is the riccia is growing slowly and staying very clean, although the young guppies are starting to mature and will probably start to do their thing, which will change the balance in the tank. Anyone want some 5th generation fancy tetratech guppies. Tetra Guppies

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not bad for an APCer

True! And, unlike at APC, comments are not limited to one-liners saying things like "I like the tank" or "it's beautiful"

Nah, not taker for the Tetra Guppies here . Actually, if you ever wanted to put some specific fish into this tank then I would say either male Endlers or - if you wait a while until breeding is more successful and nature is no longer endangered - of course Galaxies.

Ingo

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EDIT: This was the 100th post in this log. Remember the times when this seemed to be something special

Sorry I missed that. Yes, it's been almost two years since we started our logs that by the way still dominate this site. So some of the young guns out there have a lot of work to do.

Yes, of course I agree it is more of a conversational tone here, but you can only have a conversation with people unless you like talking to yourself or your going insane.

I never see the really small fish, how about the micro rasboras or Boraras Maculatus

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The micro rasboras would be nice in there too. You could try the Celestial Pearl Danios (TFH). From the sounds of things they are not too hard to breed. With all the riccia in the bottom of the tank some of the eggs might make it.

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Microrasbora sp. galaxy = Celestial Pearl Danios

The fish has been renamed recently and got its own classification.

Another nice microrasbora seems to be Microrasbora erythromicron, although I don't remember seeing this one at the LFSs or if I did then they must have looked rather pale. That is what I find with most tiny fish, they are not colorful or have any other character.

Boraras maculatus seems ok though.

Ingo

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The fish has been renamed recently and got its own classification.

What is it really now? CPD? or Rasbora?

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Wings,

You may want to take a look at This Site

In short, Celestial pearl danio (Celestichthys margaritatus) is the current name.

Ingo

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LF,

Here's a closeup of the pool filter sand in my 5g as well as one of the TetraGuppies. Sure you don't want a few.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2188276750048205226CRLFJq

And here's a room shot of the tank. It's located in a little drybar area if you walk through from right to left you end up in my kitchen where you will encounter the 72G.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2567116670048205226XAvknY

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tetratech,

I do really understand how nice it is, but that is not the problem. The problem is the existing gravel, which I would find repulsive after adding the Pool Filter Sand.

And the Tetra Guppies are very nice. So - if you take my LF Platies then I take your Tetra Guppies. Deal?

The location of the Nano shows nicely the True size of the tank, it looks very nice at that spot.

Ingo

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I do really understand how nice it is, but that is not the problem. The problem is the existing gravel, which I would find repulsive after adding the Pool Filter Sand.

You are talking about the 125g where most of the existing substrate is covered, right. Of course below the plant line in the front you will see the gravel underneath, but I don't think that's an issue. So it sound like your O.K. with the eco next to the sand because of a similiar grain size but not your gravel in the 125g, right?

And the Tetra Guppies are very nice. So - if you take my LF Platies then I take your Tetra Guppies. Deal?

Thanks, there just intermixed fancy guppies, but it's always interesting to see the mosaic of colors that develop, always different. You know when I was younger I was so into live-bearers. I used to have platys, guppies and every conceivable molly I cut get my hands on. Always had a soft spot for mollies sense they didn't eat their young. I used to love the big sailfin ones. Who know's maybe I'll do the livebearer tank again (yes, Dear, no more tanks, I understand.........NOT!)

The location of the Nano shows nicely the True size of the tank, it looks very nice at that spot.

Thanks yeah I think the 5g works better their than the 12g did.

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So it sound like your O.K. with the eco next to the sand because of a similiar grain size but not your gravel in the 125g, right?

Right, and if I should ever replace the gravel in the 125 with some different stuff, Eco or something like it, then I would for sure like to add this type of fine sand. For now, some larger grained whitish stuff has to be found.

yes, Dear, no more tanks, I understand.........NOT!

- Sounds all too familiar

Ingo

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Along with the plants for the 46g I also received some shrimps. Here's a pic of one on the rock in my 5g.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2721597240048205226THJkRJ

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And here's another one full of eggs. Taken at night with a flashlight.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2785200970048205226UGReuY

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Hm,

Your links don't seem to work for me:

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You don't have permission to access /463/2/0/97/2785200970048205226UGReuY_fs.jpg on this server.


Ingo

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Sorry, try them now.

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Ahhhh,

You soon will have a hole farm of them. So, what happened? I thought you didn't have any males? Did you get some extras?

Ingo

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You soon will have a hole farm of them. So, what happened? I thought you didn't have any males? Did you get some extras?

No, when I ordered the plants I also ordered a dozen or so Cherries? Since discovering the eggs I've removed the 5 young guppies and they are doing nicely in the 72g. Go forth and multiple

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You will find it doesn't take long for them to start to take over. I started with less than 5 in my 2G and when I took it down a few months later I had 19 adults and many babies. This was in less than ideal conditions too. I don't even want to know how many I have in the 40G!

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You will find it doesn't take long for them to start to take over. I started with less than 5 in my 2G and when I took it down a few months later I had 19 adults and many babies. This was in less than ideal conditions too. I don't even want to know how many I have in the 40G!

Your right, I just found another one with Eggs. This could be good timing as I start popping them into the 46g in a few weeks.

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I think I'm working on 50+ in my 5.5g right now. I hardly even do water changes . There's quite a bit more surface area, I can see them getting towards 100 or more in there.

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I think I'm working on 50+ in my 5.5g right now.

I must say that's a little crazy! That is a lot of shrimp in a small tank. Do you feed them well?

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Yeah, I glance over there and see a few shrimpsters jumpin' around. If I look real hard I generally forget which ones I already counted around 30.

I feed them a dusting of flakes every day and there's a load of plants in there. They always take care of however much flake I put in there very quickly.

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