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stephane Fingerling Posts: 37 Kudos: 32 Votes: 3 Registered: 05-Jan-2005 | Hello, very soon i will be settiing up a very heavily planted 5.5g and i was wondering if my old hagen c02 system would give off to much c02 in a 5.5g? thank you in advance for your time, -stephane |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 02:58 | |
tetratech Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4241 Kudos: 1074 Registered: 04-Nov-2003 | I doubt it, especially if it's heavily planted. What can of filter do you have? If you have an HOB then you probably have some surface agitation anyway which will keep the co2 modest. My Scapes |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 14:37 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | I am running one at work on a 120G. Our KH is about 16 and I am dropping the ph down to 7. Thats Co2 in the range of about 48ppm. 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 14:46 | |
tetratech Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4241 Kudos: 1074 Registered: 04-Nov-2003 | I am running one at work on a 120G. Our KH is about 16 and I am dropping the ph down to 7. Thats Co2 in the range of about 48ppm. 120G or a 12G? My Scapes |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 15:05 | |
stephane Fingerling Posts: 37 Kudos: 32 Votes: 3 Registered: 05-Jan-2005 | i will be using a hagen aquaclear hob, but i was thinking of lessening the current by using the cut plastic bottle trick, because i dont want the current to disrupt the plants. If i make the current not as strong, will there stil be enough agigitation so that there will be enough oxygen for a few fish, but it will burn enough c02 off also? |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 16:53 | |
LITTLE_FISH ***** Little Fish ***** Master of Something Posts: 7303 Kudos: 1997 Votes: 670 Registered: 20-May-2005 | stephane, What will be the light on the tank? What is the size of the AquaClear? Like is it a 50? Ingo |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 18:09 | |
stephane Fingerling Posts: 37 Kudos: 32 Votes: 3 Registered: 05-Jan-2005 | It will be my old aquaclear mini (the same as aquaclear 50 i think, just older). and i will either use two "all glass florescent lights" (the one for incandescent sockets) or 2 daylight or sunlight florescent bulbs (with incandescent sockets aswell) from home depot or some othe hardware place. |
Posted 26-Aug-2006 18:49 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | 120G or a 12G? Sorry I am so late. But it is a 120G. I will check the PH again when I get to work but thats about where it has been putting it. 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 27-Aug-2006 12:48 | |
tetratech Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4241 Kudos: 1074 Registered: 04-Nov-2003 | Wings, Why do you have a Hagen co2 system on a 120g? What could that possibility do? We are talking about the small yeast-ba My Scapes |
Posted 27-Aug-2006 17:29 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | Yup thats the system. The reson we have it on the tank is because it is something we sell. It works alright but I don't think it is the best thing in the world by far. If I had my way we would be running and selling pressurized but we don't as I am the only plant geek in the store. (read more in your log...i think its your or LF's 125 log.) I have tested the Ph and I am getting it down to 7.0 with a KH of 16. But I don't like how inconsistent it is. 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 03:28 | |
tetratech Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4241 Kudos: 1074 Registered: 04-Nov-2003 | Yup thats the system. The reson we have it on the tank is because it is something we sell. It works alright but I don't think it is the best thing in the world by far. If I had my way we would be running and selling pressurized but we don't as I am the only plant geek in the store. (read more in your log...i think its your or LF's 125 log.) Talk about misleading the blind. I can't imagine a standard Hagen system having any real effect on a 125g. They probably have an unmodified sump on the tank too. I think RedSea is trying to go mainstream with their pressurized co2 systems. They sell a combo pack that comes with a regulator, needlevalve, bubble counter and some cheesy co2 indicator. They have two different versions, one works with standard cylinders and the other works with paintball cylinders. My Scapes |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 04:40 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | Talk about misleading the blind. That is a lot of the problem I have. One of my bosses talks as if he knows everything about anything including plants. In the real world he seems to make up a lot of stories to make him self look good. He also tries to make the workers look like crap infront of customers a lot. Back to plants....this boss likes to tell people that they can grow any plant in any condition. He's done it(but probably really not). The rest of the workers don't seem to know much about plants in general. Therefore it seems I am flying solo trying to make plants take off in out area.... Sorry once again to take over your thread. Things are just really bugging me right now. It doesn't sound like you are going to be running a lot of light on this tank. What are your plans for plants and criters? You might want to try just using Flourish Excel as a carbon source. It would probably make your life simpler. Check out Nowher's log.... http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/threads/29988.1.htm?65# 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 13:57 | |
stephane Fingerling Posts: 37 Kudos: 32 Votes: 3 Registered: 05-Jan-2005 | well, i plan to have some endlers and maybe a couple ottos or pygme cories (if i can get them from my LFS). I know for sure ill have some java fern, but since my LFS doesn't usually stock the same plants alot, im not really sure all the plants I'll have. Also, another question regarding lighting, would two of these bulbs be over kill? would i get more algea than plant growth? Or is it just not the right type of lighting for plants? http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?R=3936&langId=-15&productId=34873&catalogId=10051&partNumber=169811&recN=112595&storeId=10051 (you may have to copy and paste the address bar) thanks (edit: i believe that there is also a 23 watt version that is not shown on the website, which one should i get? if either of them?) |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 18:15 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | The bulbs you have linked us to are 2700K. You should try to aim for something more around 6700K. 30W over a 5.5G shouldn't be a major problem. Smaller tanks need more light because the light can get out easier. I am running 18W on a 2G. 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 21:10 | |
stephane Fingerling Posts: 37 Kudos: 32 Votes: 3 Registered: 05-Jan-2005 | would cf screw in bulbs that claim they are daylight or sunlight work? |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 21:30 | |
Wingsdlc Fish Guru What is this? Posts: 2332 Kudos: 799 Registered: 18-Jan-2005 | Daylights are right around 6700K. Should be ok. 19G Container Pond [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric |
Posted 28-Aug-2006 22:34 | |
inkodinkomalinko Fish Guru Posts: 2441 Kudos: 833 Registered: 18-Jan-2003 | Im using the same thing on my 5.5G. Honestly, it doesnt work well. I tried it both with the diffuser it came with and by putting it into the input tube of the filter and it doesnt make any noticeable difference to my tank. The flourish excel helps more than the c02. |
Posted 30-Aug-2006 00:51 |
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