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nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	Java fern is usually tied to a rock or a piece of driftwood.. What is your lighting?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	Keep it above the gravel, then the fern will be able to attach itself to the pebble easier.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sly Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004	I tied my fern to a small pebble. Should I submerge the rock or leave it above the gravel?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
mike77ca Hobbyist Posts: 89 Kudos: 89 Votes: 0 Registered: 07-Jun-2004	java ferns will not take over your tank, but they are very good at self propigating. They grow little baby plants of of there leaves, and when the offspring are big enough, they simply float away from the parent plant until they find something to anchor to. If you dont want the new plants, just scoop them out. I would recomend howeverr that you dont spend too much money on multiple plants. Buy one and before you know it you will have all you need. They are fairly slow growing, and from what I have seen, quite e to beard algea.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	That's nice to know. Thanks for the help, nattereri! And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	An Angel, a Gold Barb and Cories won't eat any plants anyways..
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	Java ferns contain a chemical that fish don't like, so even most herbivorous fish won't eat them. My goldfish rip some pieces out of mine, decided they didn't like it and never touched it again. You should also consider Java moss, this is also attached to wood or rocks.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	That's a relief. I assume most lfs will sell these, as they seem to be pretty common. And the last question... Most fish won't eat these, right? And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	Java ferns grow quite slowly and usually only reach a max size of 10". I've heard that tanks are healthier with live plants in them This is true because plants use nitrates as fertiliser, but you need to have a fair amount of plants to see a difference...
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sly Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004	Yeah, someone just replied to my thread about that. ]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	All right, thanks. I've heard that tanks are healthier with live plants in them. One more question. Do Java ferns take over a tank? I don't want to have them choking out everything else. And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	1.8 should be allright considering Java fern is a low light plant. No sly, Java ferns do much better when attached to driftwood/rock.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sly Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004	Really, Java Ferns aren't planted in gravel?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	I was going to buy a light that produces 36 watts if I was able to get the plant. 36 watts and 20 gallons is 1.8 wpg. Is that enough? And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	I have only about 1/4 of an inch of gravel in my fw tank, but I want a live plant. I have seen pictures of java ferns, and it appears that their roots are not kept in the substrate, but above it. I wanted to verify that, and if so, would I be able to grow it in my tank? Is there anything else I should know about this plant? And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
Veteric Big Fish Posts: 376 Kudos: 549 Votes: 7 Registered: 19-Apr-2004	Java ferns grow quite slowly and usually only reach a max size of 10". You should tell that to mine, its putting off shoots rapidly and those are growing 1/2cm a day Light is allmost no concern for a java fern, i have a 20 watt bulb in a 33 gallon tank and it thrives. I've even seen java fern grown quite well in a 750ml beta bowl on a shelf, no light (it was trimmed fairly well though)
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sly Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004	What are your ferns attached to?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
nattereri Mega Fish Posts: 1075 Kudos: 1157 Votes: 39 Registered: 16-Aug-2003	Mine are attached to big pieces of driftwood. Mine are new so I guess they'll havta settle before I can see some growth.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
Veteric Big Fish Posts: 376 Kudos: 549 Votes: 7 Registered: 19-Apr-2004	ya, mine didn't do anything for the first couple of weeks, but took off well after that. I should proly put it on a rock or something being that its in gravel, but it seems to have rooted its self well enough in just that.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:45
sly Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004	Do Ferns do better on round rocks/pebbles or porous lava rocks
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