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I'm in Britain, don't think it will help you much, but I get my fix from www.aquaessentials.co.uk. I know that in the USA you can get it from www.gregwatson.com. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Have a look at Tom Barr's Estimative Index method. It's works like magic. Just give your plants what they need and they will take care of the algae for you. Have never encountered anyone using his method that failed. It's simple and successful, just what we all really want, no?

Tryst ordered some stuff from Greg Watson a little while ago. I haven't seen an entry from her that refers to it.

Maybe she's reading this thread and can state her experience.

Ingo

Edit: Untitled, haven't seen you in a while, I am glad you are back.

Last edited by LITTLE_FISH at 28-Aug-2005 16:46

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Little Fish,

Greg Watson is quite well known in the hobby and although I haven't ordered anything from him myself (being in the UK), I can't see why she should be unhappy with whatever she bought from him.

As for me, I was here all the time reading posts, only been quiet. Guess I didn't have much to say... Thanks anyway. I'll try to beep more often to show my existence.

tetratech, that's one sweet tank you have there, nice work.

It seems like we have a similar problem which Bensaf's been helping me with. I also need phosphates and will get some. You mentioned Tryst's tank, since she has started dosing all the needed nutrients, her plants are showing fast healthy growth, at least that's what I'm gathering from her pics. (but she will know best how they are responding)

"Lets see who's right the hungover Irish twat or the test kit" - This was too funny !


The Amazon Nut...

Let rev. Bensaf (cert. by the Church of the Estimative Index) show you the way to a planted tank heaven.

Bless you my child . I guess that would make Tom Barr the Pope

Tetra,

Do not resist. Do not resist. Resistance is futile.

The review of the kit talks about useability and ease of reading. Probably did nothing to test accuracy

Untitled summed it up pretty well. EI works. I too haven't encountered anybody who failed using the method.

We can discuss all day the "excess nutrient" myth. What we do know is that providing all the nutrients allows he plants to grow at optimum levels thereby knocking out the algae. Tom reckons it's because both occupy different niches. By allowing the plants to grow there simply isn't a niche for the algae to occupy.

Providing the nutrients is the way to go. You can try to second guess by relying on test kits to determine what to add. This is very dodgy and is placing a lot of reliance on notoriuosly dodgy mickey mouse hobbyist test kits. Or you can simply ensure that everything is there by adding it yourself. To excess even.That is the path to planted righteousness.

You are still focused on the algae. "Where's it coming from , is it this causing it or maybe that". Forget about it. Concentrate on the plants. Make sure they have everything they need by adding it. Not by trusting a test kit that says it's already there. Even if it is already there a bit more won't hurt.

Take control of your tank. Put control into your own hands and not in the hands of test kits or algae.

Yes the Otto's and BN will do their best work at night.

Greg Watson is a great source for KH2PO4. $10 including shipping will get you a few years supply.

Here endeth the lesson. Go in peace my son.

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Some days you're the pigeon and some days you're the statue.

Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability.

O.K., O.K.

I believe you, I will sacrifice my tank to this EI movement, but I won't preach it onto others until the last shread of grey evil slime is gone....forever......



My Scapes

"Tom Barr the Pope"

Or by his latin name: Plantius Growious IX.

"I won't preach it onto others until the last shread of grey evil slime is gone....forever......"

Let me see... that means in two weeks time at the most. Don't forget to show us pictures of your tank then.

From the marital point of view, your wife is going to love us. No more expensive test kits, no more testing on a saturday night. All that time and money on your hands now which you can invest it in her. Getting a pressurised CO2 system is the way to go. Every woman wants one! It's a well-known fact!

Last edited by untitled at 29-Aug-2005 00:47

Untitled


Tetra,
That's it, give it a try. When everything is looking great in 2 weeks you have to tell us. To prove to others it works and most importantly to give the opportunity to "na na ne na na tol ya so "



Btw, my wife has come to terms with the addiction. Mainly 'cos it keeps me out of the pub. But she's still pretty mad that I paid good money to get a master test kit and it now gathers dust in a bottom drawer. Sometimes I pour the reagent down the sink to make it look like I'm actually using it.

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Some days you're the pigeon and some days you're the statue.

Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability.