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Subscribewell im setting up my 29-again
bratyboy2
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okay im planning on setting up my 29 again and wanted to know if anyone had a pic of there 29 to give me inspiration i want to use live plants and driftwood and some rocks but i can decide on plants that would work really well together. any ideas?
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Hi there,

I had a 29g plant tank for awhile...
First off, you want 60 to 90 watts of flourescent light in the 6500-6700 K rating.. I struggled with 1wpg and pulled it off, but some plants could have done alot better.

Here's a few I had in mine that I can remember in 1wpg.

crypts, asian ambulia, water Lettuce, hygrophila polysperma, hornwort, pennywort, anubias, java ferns, vals, elodia densa. Had more, can't remember.

I also recommend either purchasing a plant substrate or making a nutritious substrate. Flourite and eco-complete are the main ones. For them leave pure. Or you could mix peat, sand, topsoil (low in organics) and some clay. (couple inches) then cap with an inch of fine grain pea gravel.

Good luck,
DaFish

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bratyboy2,

Here is [link=A Link]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/61406.html" style="COLOR: #ff6633[/link] to my 29G. Read through the rather short log if this is something you would like and let me know if you have any questions.

Hope this helps,

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DaFishMan..wow that dosent seem right...those plants actualy made it through and looked good?!?!?! well wow might give it a try....Ingo ill get back to u soon
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Ingo...the tank lookad great from the beginning to the middle till the last transformation...not to fond of.but yes this is the tank that i would love to set up.its nice lush and vibrant.
my questions are:
1.do u think if i added a CO2 system..just a cheep one..and had 1 wpg do u think the plants would still do as good as ur did at 2.25?
2.if not i will purchase a new light..but is 2 watts good enouph?
3.what plants did u think did the best and would u recommend them in my tank?
4.would 5 lemon tetras,5 black neons,3 cory cats,1 blue/white fin shark,3 gold tetras,2 upside down catfish,a gypsy king tiger pleco,2 flame dwarf gouramis(pair),and maybe some carnials about 5, and maybe a centerpeice fish i dont have a good one yet. any ideas if i should change some of the fishes?
5. could u give me and idea where to place everything?
thanx so much ill try to keep thi forum going and maybe some pictures as it becomes...
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bratyboy2,

I hear you on the latest transformation issue, and believe me, I got to hear it from my aquascaping buddies . I just don’t have the time to mess with it, maybe you have seen my 125G log in the planted forum, this keeps me a littly busy at the time.

To your questions:

1) No, the plants wouldn’t do as good. You need 3 things for efficient plant growth, besides water, namely Fertilizer, Light, and CO2. 1wpg is low light and some CO2 for sure will increase growth, but these plants would not thrive in it. Also, for 1wpg CO2 is best provided in a small shot of liquid carbon, most of us use Flourish Excel for this purpose.

2) 2wpg is ok, but borderline. My 2.25wpg (based on the 65w over 29G) is good enough for medium light, but no more. Adding CO2 at my level might be an option, but a real injection system would be overpowering it and I am personally not too wild about DIY.

3) Depends on the light . At medium I can see many options and once you decide on the light we could go ahead and discuss a few. How about if you search the [link=Tropica Website]http://www.tropica.com" style="COLOR: #ff6633[/link] for some that you would like.

4) Wow, way too many fish, or did I misread your thread and you really have at least a 55? I am not familiar with some of the fish you list (at least not in detail), but I am not a fan of any schooling fish (tetras and even cories) being in groups of less than 6.

5) Place what? We first have to figure out what to get. Also, look for some hardware, aka maybe rocks and/or driftwood. Also, I forgot, did you mention what substrate you want to use?

Hope this helps a little,

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"DaFishMan..wow that dosent seem right...those plants actualy made it through and looked good?!?!?!"

The ambulia was 'leggy' but most of those plants did well.
The val died off. I was giving ambulia, water lettuce and pennywort away to friends with tanks often.. The last 2 I mentioned are floating plants.
Although I did it, I DO NOT recommend 1wpg. I did use co2, liquid fert here and there, and jobes plant spikes.

Your 29 gal tank would be about 18 inches high and you want 2wpg at least to get that light down to the substrate, as well as give you a higher variety plants.
60 watts for you would be a good starting point, approx 2wpg.

My 40g breeder tank is only 1.5 wpg and carrying 30 something species of plants. I think with 2-3 wpg you'll be very happy.

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thanks to the both of u.
i wanted to know where to place some of the plants and ill hopefully have some pics of the driftwood and rocks im useing soon as well. the fish are now going to be different because the fact i have another 10 gallon im setting up and the tetras are the first to be moved(sum). as for lighting im going to be useing deffinatly going to be using 65 wpg.
i know want to get as fish the following.
6 black neons
1 gypsy king pleco
2 upside down cats
3 corys
6 carinal tetras
and 2 angelfish
yah i kow but i cut down a bit
but i will lok on the tropica site later and get back t o u about the plants im interested in
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Gypsy king pleco?? dunno what that is do u have a l# for it? up the corys to 6 at least if possible, what about only 1 species of tetra a nice schhol of 12 cardinal would look nice or 12 neons, i think itz kinda pushing it with the stock, but with adequate filtration u should be alright, o yeah personally i would scrap the upside down catfish very agressive buggers and eat ALOT so i would scrap them or the corys personally just to give them more floor room, but again that my opinion.
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Get more cories...you could have like 8 in a 29g.

Also, 2 full grown angelfish (they will grow you know) will make a 29g look so small. I would get only one, if any in that size tank.

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