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at the moment ive got
a voltarn lionfish 6inch
and a big red crab... 8inch

in a 4'x 3'x 2' FOWLR which will turn into a sps reef when i can get the money for lights, better calcium reactor and a much better skimmer.

things i like
eels
predators in general
tangs
larger angels
interesting creatures in general
clowns are a must aswell
(i know from the previous owner of big red crab that it likes to eat little fish )

any suggestions?

oh and dont even mention sting-rays

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

The crab and lion are going to limit you. Clownfish would be at risk for death, unless you can find one or two adults. You don't have the lighting for anemones yet, so the clowns won't have that protection factor.

A lot of larger angelfish are risky with corals, because they tend to eat them. If or when you want to grab an angelfish, try to get a species which is more planktivorous.

Some of the predatory fish you might consider include large hawkfish, wrasses, and peaceful triggers like bluejaws and pinktails. Large enough to not be eaten, and many of them will get along with the other inhabitants and even corals.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

I agree that the crab and Lionfish will really limit your tank. As far as Tangs I would recommend the yellow tang and a yellow eyed Kole tang as they have an attitude and should be able to hold there own. I would also suggest getting rid of the crab. JMO

would this be ok?
lionfish
tomato clowns?
yellow headed eel
long nosed black tang (if i can get my hands on one)
big red evil crab (that is my fav auqatic creature that ive ever owned so it stays )

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

The tomato clown will be fish food for the trigger and crab. Dont know that much about the tang but he`ll need to be pretty aggressive.

trigger?

once i get good lighting would it work if i gave then an anemone?

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

I`m sorry I meant lionfish. The only thing about getting an anenome for your clown is that he might not host the anenome. I had a BTA and both my clowns ignored it and instead hosted a Pagoda cup coral and a bubble coral. I got rid of the BTA because the clowns would not use it.Here is a post on it.

http://www.fantasyreef.com/showthread.php?t=2205

could this work?
lionfish
crab
yellow headed eel
pair of clowns bought with anemone
tang of sorts
longhorn cowfish

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

I`m looking at your tank dimensions. Is that a 120 gallon tank?

its a really deep 180g

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

The only thing I`m afraid of because of the trigger and big crab is the clowns. Other than that I think you`ll be OK.

will the crab become a problem when i start intoducing corals?

the rest of the list should be alright for just sps and an amemone eh?

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

The crab has potential to be a big problem with corals. I guess we don't know exactly what kind it is and what its preferred diet is, but we do know that it's large and eats fish. Many crabs are happy to eat corals and other such inverts, and even those don't can still cause damage by trampling them. There's no way to guarantee what your crab is going to do, but personally I wouldn't keep it together with corals.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

might have to become a fuge friend in that case... thats dissapointing... I suppose it opens up more stocking options though

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''