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direct quote from THIS site under gouramis.
"Temperament: Varies widely from peaceful to intollerant. Try not to combine the different colour variations to help avoud aggression."

They should be fine, provided that at least the gold and opaline gouramis are female. Otherwise, you may end up with some fighting on your hands.

Also, you should add a few more cories. Most people who have kept them can tell you that they do much better and are much happier when kept in shoals of at least six. That's just a thing with cories, they should be treated almost as a schooling fish (when deciding on numbers).

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

That's a LOT of fish for 25 gallons.
The three gouramis will each top 5" and be highly territorial about the surface of the tank; I can't imagine there'd be any way for the three of them to coexist safely, although on the other hand the small tank size might kill them before they got so territorial as to endanger each other.

The Syno cats will hit 4" - again, a bit of a big fish for such a small tank, and the three of them, given their length and biomass, are almost overstocking the tank on their own.

The cories would prefer a larger group but there's no room for adding more.

And, there's no room to add cardinals.

Sorry, but - better to know and not kill fish, right?
How about a Dwarf Neon Gourami, 6 Cardinals, and 6 Peppered cories?

-Molly
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I am definitely keeping:
lace gourami
gold gourami
opaline gourami
and usd catfish,
How about:
1 lace gourami
1 gold gourami
1 opaline gourami
4 usd catfish
6 cardinals

Yup, that's what I said before. Hopefully now that someone else agrees with me labrakitty, you'll believe me? The gouramis and synodontis catfish get too big, and the gouramis might not coexist peacefully. You should cut out at least one of the gouramis, and hopefully the upside down cats as well.

EDIT: Pretty much the same thing on this thread... http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/50270.html?200411181439

Last edited by sirbooks at 19-Nov-2004 15:57

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

NO WAY SIRBOOKS!!!!!!!!!!! the gouramis are staying, they will all be female. the upside down catfish are staying too. I know how big they grow, and it isn't to big, They each have more than 1 gallon of water each. And there is still space in cm of fish left over after taking away the amount for all those fish.

Why ask for advice when you ignore it when its given i dont understand? Little mousling tells you that they will either die from being over stocked or kill each other for space, either way you got dead fish. why doesnt this sink in?
you got 3 choices..
1: rethink your stocking
2: get a larger tank
3: watch dead fish in your tank
you asked for advice now do yourself a favor and listen to it rather then being stuborn.

I agree with the above that they will get to big and will probably fight if only because they're right on top of each other. If you add all of those fish you are going to be overstocking your aquarium which can and probably will put you're fish's lives in danger and will result in miserable fish. But if that's your prerogative... go for it.

Last edited by john.stone at 19-Nov-2004 16:00

"NO WAY SIRBOOKS!!!!!!!!!!! the gouramis are staying, they will all be female. the upside down catfish are staying too. I know how big they grow, and it isn't to big, They each have more than 1 gallon of water each. And there is still space in cm of fish left over after taking away the amount for all those fish."

this statement in itself is wrong. 1 fish per gallon of water? so a oscar only needs a gallon of water?
and if you meant one inch of fish for 1 gallon of water this statement would also be wrong. when you deal with territorial fish or some other things like thickness or tallness of fish this rule doesnt apply. ignore this rule its useless in 90% of stocklistings.

Thankyou for all your help,
I have decided on my tank:
1 lace gourami-female
1 gold gourami-female
1 opaline gourami-female
4 upside down catfish
6 cardinal tetras

I am setting up a 96 litre tank.
with:
1 lace gourami
1 opaline gourami
1 gold gourami
3 upside down catfish
3 peppered corys
6 cardinals?
Would they go well?
ph:6.5
dh: around 10
temparature:24-25
thankyou!

quote from another site.

"I had two females the same size. One would push the other into the corner of the tank. As they got bigger (about 4" the more aggesive she got until...you know the rest. I thought getting two females would be ok. Not in this case. As a note, she is very peaceful with the other fish."
Link to site

Your money, your fish.

When the time comes that you're staring at a tank full of dead fish, don't say you weren't warned.

If for any reason you happen to change your mind and would rather stock your tank according to what will be sustainable, healthy and in the best interests of you and your fish, by all means let us know and we'll help you work something out. Beyond that I really don't know what you were trying to accomplish with this thread.

*shrug*

Hmm can i thank you for this thread. it made me realise that gold gouramis are not suited for my 75g like a innitially thought. i foudn this by reading post after post of them killign each other or other fish in the tank.
did you catch that? 75 gallons of water and im not keeping 2 of them because of the agression.

All right folks, I think we've gotten our point across. We can no longer affect what the other person does, and can only hurt their opinion of this site and its members. Let's try to keep this friendly and informative, and not flame the other party.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

Actually, gold and opaline gouramis (really just two of the different color breeds of the "Three-Spot" Gourami) are, in my experience, not so vicious that you can't keep them with other fish of generally comparable size. (I'd recommend consulting this site's Anabantid section for further information.) But keeping them with something as small as Cardinals really is asking for trouble.

P.S.: I'd forgotten that the name for our Anabantid section is "Labyrinth Lounge".

Well, the problem here is space. With three five or six inch fish all occupying the top area of a small tank like this one, there are bound to be problems. The gouramis won't have room to set up their own territories or avoid each other, and most likely at least some fighting will ensue. It's like this: You probably don't mind having a neighbor, and saying "Hi" to him or her every day, and talking a little. But if that same neighbor moves into your bedroom, you certainly won't get along with them all the time. Arguments and squabbles would probably be the norm.

The same goes for the upside down cats, but to a lesser extent. They are all 'family', and will get along perfectly (unlike a real family), but they still take up too much space.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

I asked the aquarium, and they said that it would be fine.