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Thought I'd post some vids of my unusual tank. Yes, it is overstocked. I bought all these fish as babies when I set up the tank in 2007 and haven't purchased a single fish since. The most unusual part of my tank is the variety of fish which breaks the "rules" of much fish keeping advice. I have tiny fish an inch long hanging boldly with fish 6, 7 even 11 inches long. A few oddballs in there as well. Also, many of the fish are, (in just little over a year), larger than most books say the max size is. Finally, click in the last link for a shot of one of the most amazing eartheater cichlids I have ever seen.

Here's a list of fish with some video links at the bottom.

4 Black Bar Myleus "Tetra disco" "Blackear Pacu" (Myleus Schomburgki) over 6.5-7.5 inches
3 Common Silver Dollar (Metynnis Hypsauchen or Argenteus) 6.5-7.5 inches
2 Mystery Silver Dollars (Metynnis Mola or Luna) almost 5 inches
1 Flagtail (Semaprochilodus taeniurus) 11 inches
1 Silver Distichodus (Distichodus affinis) 7.5 inches
1 Chinese Hi Fin "Hifin" Banded Shark (Myxocyprinus asiaticus) over 7 inches
1 Earth Eater Cichlid (Satanoperca leucosticta) over 7 inches
1 Rosy Red Minnow (Pimephales promelas) 4 inches
3 Angelfish (Pterophyllum scalare) 5-6+ inches
1 Keyhole Cichlid (Aequidens maroni) 4+ inches
5 Pleco (Plecostomus) 5-9+ inches
1 Royal Pleco (Panaque nigrolineatus) 6 inches
1 Blue Gourami ((Trichogaster trichopterus) 4 inches
4 Bumblebee Goby (Brachygobius xanthozona) over 1 inch
7 Black Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi) 1.5-2 inches
1 Rasbora (Rasbora heteromorpha) almost 2 inches
1 Darter Fish 3 inches
1 Bluefin Killifish? (Lucania goodei)
4 Hillstream Loach (Beaufortia kweichowensis) 2 inches
2 Horseface Loach (Acantopsis choirorhynchos) 5+ inches
1 Neon Blue Australian Rainbowfish (Melanotaenia praecox) almost 3 inches
6 Kuhli Loach (Pangio kuhlii) 4 inches
2 Ghost Shrimp (Palaemonetes) over 2 inches (body)
1 Bright red bamboo shrimp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9bpi3bE3bE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jcp8_lUIW8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VoyVNVEpsE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt377tU6tB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy7oFucTYPw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhvWFVCB6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l010jZaSbrE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZtY8aR9zS4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtB3nqTkh3M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBpjU5hP67Y


Many more on my youtube page.


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lol with all thos fish wats the size of the tank??????

85 gallons

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lol u kinda over stocked. what type of filteration u got on that tank? its a cool tank tho! love the fish.

I have to commend you, all your fish look sharp and in stunning condition. However, I agree, your tank is overstocked, and not just biologically, some of your fish will be needing more space to swim soon if not already.

I've never kept silver dollars before, actually, but it seems odd for a swimming fish to associate with the corner like that. Their swimming in the feeding shot just makes the tank come alive.

The two "Plecos" I saw aren't even common plecs, they are Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps. It's kind of cool since I haven't seen that many of them that large in a tank together before. Did you haev a shot of your royal plec?

I've also never seen an M. asiaticus that large. Props. I've always wondered when they start losing juvenile characteristics, but it appears they still have them at 7". Adults supposedly lose the extended dorsal fin.

I've avoided getting a Semaprochilodus because my tank isn't big enough for an adult, and I've got a 125 gallon! They are one of my fave non-catfish though.

What helps keep fishes of extreme size differences is the fact that your big fish are primarily herbivorous. I've got a 8" Panaque with a pair of breeding bristlenoses, and everyone was happy all around until I got a 3" predatory fish. I've got to move him out since the bristlenoses have probably bred once or twice already without me even knowing it because of that little guy...

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if u not pushing 1000 gph on that tank ur gona need to get more filtration on a 55 i have with 5 fish all round 12 inches long and im pushing around 1800 gph and i still need to do 2 weekly water changes...... but i dont let my nitrates to get over 10....... the thing is when i get my 125 set up again(down cuz of problems with the sump i have that pushes 3000 gph and has a lot of ceramic ring and bio balls in it i think its a 75 or a 90 gallon sump and im gona transfer the filters on to the 125 with the sump so im gona be pushing around 40 times the gallons in the tank....... not saying what u are doing is bad just that the fish look extreamly healthy for being in that tank with so many fish.....

i love flagtails just cant put any in my tank with the stocking thats gona be in it. they have been know to suck the slime coat of rays and bichirs and i have see a few that have hit 14"+...... i bet if u got a 6 foot long tank thos silver dollars would never stop moveing.

What preditory fish did u put in ur tank that is takeing out baby bristel noses?

The little catfish eating my fry I've got is Batasio fluviatilis. He's probably not a fantastic hunter, and I don't think they are primarily piscivorous based on its appearance. Also, I've never actually seen it eat any baby bristlenoses. But considering before I got it I had a batch with 30 and a batch with over 20 babies, and after I got it I haven't gotten more than 10 in the last couple batches (with some of the batches only giving me 1 baby) I'm pretty sure he's the culprit. I'm probably going to transfer my bristlenoses to another tank so they don't keep losing fry, but I'm hoping that it's not too big of an adjustment that they stop breeding for a long time.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.

Your tank just looks crowded. Don't get me wrong your fish look awesome, and it is a pretty cool mix. But the fish look bored and not happy in most of the videos. They just sit in "their" spots in the tank because there isn't room for them to go any where. Really should get them in a bigger tank.

Batasio fluviatilis are a type of bagride catfish but a very small one really good hunters like well oxyganted and on the colder side of the temp scale, like bettween 60 to 71 degrees F. they like fast water and to be in groups of 3-4. that just wat i have read about them i was thinking about geting a 20 gall for a few of them and have a few white cloud mout. minnows with a lot of current but a place to rest and hide........ shin i say keep the bn plecos in that tank and set up a tank for the cats....

sorry for the derail just something i have been looking into for a while.

I'll reply to everyone's questions at once here.
Filtration: 2 rena's xp3 and xp4 (800gal/hr)

Space: Yep, it's crowded. I recently removed a lot of crap for more swimming room.

Water changes: 65% every 2 weeks

Royal plec. There a short shot of him on this clips (see 1:52 sec) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybWFu21sd4

Semaprochilodus rarely exceed 14 inches in an aquarium. I don't see why you'd be concerned about having one in a 125 gallon tank.

Regarding needing 1000+ gallon/hour filtration. That is upsurd. Way overkill. My water stays pristine in my present set-up. I honestly don't think most of my fish will do that much more growing. the shark yes.

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A 125 gallon is only about 2' wide and 6' long. For a fish that grows over 1' long and is adapted for swimming, I do not believe a 125 gallon is appropriate. I used to have a pair of bala sharks in my 125 gallon, and even at 6" they were up and down the tank in moments; if they were twice that length, it would take even less time before they'd have to turn around. On top of this, Semaprochilodus are found in groups in the wild, and thus I wouldn't feel right unless I had multiple specimens, which also necessitates a larger aquarium. In my opinion, an inactive 12" fish is fine in a 125 gallon (ie. bichirs, certain catfishes), but more active fishes need more room so I can properly observe their behavior.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.

A lot of fish in an 85 but they all look healthy. You must do a great job of maintanence to keep that many fish healthy and disease free. Well done.

I've heard that semiprochilodus should not be kept in groups because they fight with eachother. I think that's why you never see more than one in a tank

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Your fish all look healthy, so well done.
However im a firm believe of fish thriving. Those fish arent thriving, theyre survivng.

fair enough, thanks for the comment

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