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Hello, I am trying to figure out what is on my painted glassfish. I did not notice the marks when I got it but they have appeared and seem to be getting bigger. On it's side is what looks like a little white ball that is just under the front of it top fin. On one of it's side fins is a very small white ball and on the top fin on the end is another small white ball. The white balls do not appear to be fuzzy like but just a hard white ball. It seems to be healthy otherwise. It eats & swims around with no problems and doesn't seem to be to stressed. Any ideas would be great. Below is some information regarding my tank. Thanks

TANK LEVELS
Ammonia: 0 - .25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20
pH: 8.4
Temp: 76-78d F

TAP LEVELS
Ammonia: .25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20
pH: 8.4

Tank Size: Standard 20 gallon
Stock List: 4 Gold Barb, 2 Painted Glassfish, 4 Pepper Cory, 2 Bleeding Hearts, 6 Rasboras, 4 Pristella Tetras
Filtration: Deluxe Aqua-Tech 10-20 PowerFilter & RUGF with 2 Penguin 660R's with large prefilters

Additives: Jungle ACE (Ammonia Chloramine Eliminator)



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Post InfoPosted 22-Jun-2006 20:33Profile PM Edit Report 
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does anyone think it could be ick? if not, if it was fuzzy I would say fungas but you said it isnt fuzzy, ... hmmm I dont know!

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I thought it might be ick at first but it isn't alot of little specs all over. It is just three areas and the largeset is the one on it side. The other 2 spots are very small and hard to see unless you look real close. The ball on the side is about the size of a tip on a ball point pen and it is on top of the skin not burrowed into the skin and the other 2 mabye the tip of a needele. Again it doesn't seem to bother the fish but I am a worrier. Hope this helps alittle.


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Post InfoPosted 22-Jun-2006 22:09Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
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ok well I was looking into it, and it sounds like the desease called "white spot" and to treat it you raise water temp. but I dont know if it is "white spot" or not.... it said it appears on fins and body... Hope this helps

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oh the reson you raise temp is to kill the parrisite (sp)!

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Hello, I can't really raise my temp to much more due to my cories. I already have it at the high end for them. I was reading around alittle and just thought I would add something. The larger white ball on the fishes side is almost like the whitehead of a pimple. It is not red or fuzzy around the area. It is almost like the ball is sitting right on the skin of the fsh and not under the skin. Didn't know if this might help or not.


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that is very odd.... is a pic possiable? (to do that, upload to photo bucket " [link]www.photobucket.com [/link]" or tinypic " [link]http://tinypic.com [/link]" and post the url here and highlight it and press the BLUE "LINK" button at the top of message posting page!)

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EditedEdited by Needeles
Sorry but I don't have a camera right now. I do on my cell phone but it won't let me send out pics for some reason. I also don't have a cable hookup for my pc as I can't seem to find one. Sorry

I don't know if this makes a difference or not but twords the end of everyday (In the evening) my tank water starts to get hazy. It is like there is really fine sand particals floating in my tank. In the mornings the tank is clear again. Not sure if this matters or not.


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Are these painted Glassfish dyed? It could be the points where they've injected the dye.






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Hello, yes they are Painted Glassfish. I didn't know the fish got injected until after I bought them. I don't thinkit is were the injection spot would have been. The ball is under the dye line on the top of the fishes body. And there is very small white spots on the end of a couple fins. My other Painted Glassfish does not have this. I have some Melafix and Pimafix but am not sure if I should use this yet or not. The fish acts normal and eats normal but the spots just worry me. I just don't want the other fish to get sick.


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Do you have a quarantine tank you could put this fish into. Then you could isolate it from the rest of the fish.

If you are going to treat the main tank then be sure to remove any carbon you have in the filter as this will absorb the medications.

Water changes will also help. Hopefully some of the more experienced members will reply soon and they will be able to give you some more info.

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No, I don't have a QT to use. I have a 10g tank but I keep some reptiles in it. I do know that I need to remove the carbon if I use meds but just not sure if I should use any. Thanks for the help again.


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Its sounds to me as if your glassfish have picked up cauliflower disease, which is unfortunate, but a really common disease with dyed fish, since the unsterilised needle used in the dying process transmits the parasite directly into the tissue of the fish in the most effective way possible. The disease forms large lumps at any point on the body, but usually near the base of fins or on them initially. It looks very much like cancer, and while it often does eventually claim the fish's life, it can take many months or even years to do so. The thing to watch for is that the lumps (which are actually breeding cysts) do not burst when other fish are in the same water, as this is the rare opportinity that the disease takes to breed. Any fish that imbibes in part of the cyst either directly from the victim, dead or alive, fin nips that fish, or eats from the substrate after the cyst has burst will contract the disease.A fish who has a large cyst (with a small fish a large mature cyst can constitute up to 25% of its bodyweight)usually dies from blood loss and osmotic shock when the cysts bursts.

On past experience with shoaling fish i'd remove said animal and euthanise it to save the others, unless you have other members of the shoal already infected, in which case you might as well let them live out their lives together away from unaffected fish in a seperate tank.

There is no cure, and its one of the reasons im very much against dyed fish.This is a disease that should be mega-rare in the hobby, because its natural transmission rate is low, but thanks to dyed fish its really much more prevalent than it should be and it causes a great deal of suffering.
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Hello and thanks for the info. Ya I didn't know that they were injected when I bought them. I only bought 2 and the other does seem fine. I went ahead and took it out as I have a community tank with a few different types of fish. I didn't want them to get sick as you described above. I agree with you 100% about injecting fish, I don't think it is right. Will the single painted glassfish be ok in a tank with other different types of fish as this is what I now have. He is one of the first fish I got so he has been in there for almost 5 months now. Let me know what you think. Thanks again.


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He would probably appreciate a little company of his own species. You could try getting some unpainted glass catfish.
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