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Saprolegnia and Aeromonas? | |
longhairedgit Fish Guru Lord of the Beasts Posts: 2502 Kudos: 1778 Votes: 29 Registered: 21-Aug-2005 | Sounds like it'll have to be furan, and since a cycle is inevitable at this point because of that, then you might as well gut the tank. Just recycle with the fish in a bare block of water with new filter media and start from scratch. No bogwood, no plants, no gravel, just the fish, the filter, an aerator and meds. Once its recycled and the fish either dead or well again, put the uv in, and start again with quarantines for everything, bake every rock, every bit of wood etc. Damn , you dont deserve to get luck as bad as that, at this rate I can see you going RO , and quarantining for two months before you can build a community again. The bacterial water quality where you are must be lethal, either that or its the frogs again, maybe leeches passing on amoebic blood diseases that impair the immune system. |
Posted 21-Jul-2007 05:11 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | Well, I couldnt bring myself to stripping the tank and moving the fish to uncycled hospitals just yet. So Ive started treating in situ with Furan and metronidazole, will be running UV filter and sterilizing as much of the hardware as I can. In the meantime hospital tanks are being cycled in the case that they need to be rehoused and tank stripped. Also will employ Jungle labs medicated anti-parasite food with metro and praziquantel, but im going to medicate for now as explained before to expose the shrimp to those meds before moving them to a ten gallon in order to use praziquantel safely. The fish are not all infected and thus far only the cardinal tetra has died of dropsy, but there are some cases I am concerned about. I will elaborate as follows... The cardinal tetra that suffered from dropsy was exhibiting pine coning of the scales, bloating, reddening of the gills and murky lens of the eye, very much like the one in this picture. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:29 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | This other cardinal tetra is also showing some signs but it is not that advanced. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:30 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | The neon also exhibits a murky lens and reddening of the gills. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:31 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | The other serious case in my opinion is one of the rineloricarias, it shows hemorraging on its tail fin and mouth with no other apparent physical symptoms. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:37 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | ...and the mouth. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:38 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | The other case Im worried about is the hoplos catfish, he still shows signs of what I gather to be eye flukes, since he exhibits murky lens of the eye. He seems more active now and getting back to his usual self, but if he doesnt eat constantly his belly curves inward somewhat as if it was sucked in but regains his turgency once hes eaten. Heres a close up of him I posted in the photo booth On the pic below you can see the eye lenses clouded over. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:51 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | Some Red Phantom and Green Flame Tetras still show what looks like saprolegnia on the bottom lip and also reddening of the gills. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 03:58 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | Strangely enought the fish that holds a reputation of being delicate is looking good and apart from losing the tail extensions during a recent infection of aeromonas he is looking quite peachy. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 04:00 | |
REDPHANTOM Enthusiast Taking life on an angle Posts: 176 Kudos: 46 Votes: 4 Registered: 05-Jan-2007 | With the amano shrimp in the tank, I really cant tell if they are sick or not. But this one seems far from being sick if anything looks quite healthy. |
Posted 30-Jul-2007 04:01 | |
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