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Well, we picked up a Bosemani Rainbowfish from WalMart of all places! Anyhoo, we've had her for about 48hrs, and noticed a white fungus type growth on her upper lip, So, here's what I did, and my rational.... let me know what else I need to do, and if my reasoning is correct!
I set up our 10 Gallon with proper temp water (Dechlorinated with Stress-Coat), no gravel, Got a big airstone bubbling away, put in the heater, put a very low wattage incandescent in the hood, and added Pimafix, and Stress-zyme to the water. Once I double checked temp etc.... I added the fish to the tank.
I don't have a cartridge for the aqueon filter that doesn't have carbon..... I may be able to get one tonight, but my thinking is that for the short term, she should be OK without a filter because of the airstone, and because she is the only fish in the tank. My thinking is that if I keep up with 20% WC every other day I can do this without a filter. Am I nuts?
I can't honestly believe that just 2 weeks ago I had only a 55 gallon tank, and now I have a 20 gallon QT and a 10 gallon hospital tank! At least I feel somewhat prepared for the hobby now.
Thanks!
Dan

55G -5x Bosemani, 3x Emerald Cory,3x Red Rainbow, 3x Turquoise Rainbow. 20G-Empty. 10G -4x Danio 3x Cory Fry 1 Gold Mystery Snail. 10G- 1x CAE, 2x Tetra 1x ADF

That fungus is very common among rainbows. I should know I have had a lot of rainbows over the last few years, and I have 5 bosemanis right now. As for treating it, I would also add in melafix. And if it ends up getting to the point that those (Pima and Mela) dont work. Go with Furanase. It is extremely powerful and will kill the bacterial colony that keeps the tank cycled as well, but it will kill the fungus. sometimes in worse cases the fungus is internal as well as external. In that case the only solution is Furanase. I keep a bottle handy here just in case. I am sure Git will be along soon with more info. He helped me out quite a bit when I found this stuff on mine.

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How will I know when the fungus is truly gone and I can introduce her back to quarantine?
The fungus is very difficult to see, it just looks like a fuzzy top lip. I'm gonna try and get some pictures.
Dan

55G -5x Bosemani, 3x Emerald Cory,3x Red Rainbow, 3x Turquoise Rainbow. 20G-Empty. 10G -4x Danio 3x Cory Fry 1 Gold Mystery Snail. 10G- 1x CAE, 2x Tetra 1x ADF

Lol theres nothing to say jim, youre probably right, its probably flexibacter (the bacteria that walks like a fungus lol), and as for treating it, youre not gonna beat furan so, all been said really.

lol, who am I kidding, my fevered brain just kicked off again.

Short term dont annoy the fish with incessant water changes when ill, better to just ammolock it for the treatment period, but yeah with a rainbow in a tank that size you definitely want decent oxygenation. If it is flexibacter its quick growing , but also fast dying when youve beaten it, so give the treatments (probably take around a week) then observe the fish for around 3 more days, then it can go wherever you were gonna put it. Given the disease pit it probably came from, it would be better to give it a full one month quarantine, but I guess you could get that down to a couple of weeks if its not doing so well in the 10gal, and if you gave the fish a couple of days off after the furan is done and gave it a one off shot of jungle labs antiparasite formula you could probably get it into community without a major risk of disease issues.Im not big on pre-emptive treatments,but to be fair, there probably reasonable cause here. Rainbows have the two major weaknesses, being flexibacter and mycobacterium, aside from that they generally harbour relatively few diseases.

See I knew he would be around sometime!

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How about Jungle Labs fungus eliminator? Anyone tried this one? Furanace seems to be unavailable to us around here.
Dan

55G -5x Bosemani, 3x Emerald Cory,3x Red Rainbow, 3x Turquoise Rainbow. 20G-Empty. 10G -4x Danio 3x Cory Fry 1 Gold Mystery Snail. 10G- 1x CAE, 2x Tetra 1x ADF

Aforementioned product has two furan derivatives in it. If you can get it, go for it.

Well, here we are 14 days later... two treatments of the Jungle labs Fungus Eliminator. She looks healthy to me (A novice at best!) But i'm still worried about putting her into community.
I don't think it was flexibacter because it never did progress beyond a little bit of peach fuzz on her upper lip... no tufts or anything.
The question is: If I put her into community and I notice the fungus coming back, is it instantly contagious to the other fish, or can I remove her to the hospital again quickly and save the rest of the fish????

55G -5x Bosemani, 3x Emerald Cory,3x Red Rainbow, 3x Turquoise Rainbow. 20G-Empty. 10G -4x Danio 3x Cory Fry 1 Gold Mystery Snail. 10G- 1x CAE, 2x Tetra 1x ADF

Depends on fish immune system, slime barrier resistance and severity of bacterial or fungal strain. Not a known quantity im afraid. But if shes looking clear after 14 days id say her chances of being properly clear are pretty good. Tbh if she wasnt I think youd have noticed some acceleration in symptoms by know. Thats kind of an average guess, I dont think anyone could be truly conclusive about it.

Well, we took the plunge! She is in the community tank. For better or worse, until.....do us part. We'll see!
She looks pretty goood, so we are hopeful.
Thanks all for the advice.
Dan

55G -5x Bosemani, 3x Emerald Cory,3x Red Rainbow, 3x Turquoise Rainbow. 20G-Empty. 10G -4x Danio 3x Cory Fry 1 Gold Mystery Snail. 10G- 1x CAE, 2x Tetra 1x ADF