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	help with swim bladder disease
obsexion909 Fingerling Posts: 34 Kudos: 27 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Apr-2004	ok this morning i noticed my frontosa swimming funny struggleling to balance himself. i suspected that he had swim bladder disease and i looked up sympotoms here at fp and it described what i saw the fish being at a 45 degree angle with the face facing down. i called a lfs and they recomended something called crout i believe thats what they guy said its called but they were out of it. i have to wait till thursday for there next shipment to arrive. as of now im treating with some kanacyn antibiotic that i have leftover from a previous treatment. on the instructions of kanacyn it doesnt specify that it treats swim bladder disease but one of the two lfs recomended i use it and the other that was out of crout said kanacyn can treat swim bladder disease but that the crout targeted treating swim bladder disease. is anyone familiar with kanacyn? does anyone think it will treat it? the instructions of the box state that it treats red streaks, or hemorrhaging, dropsy, fin rot and tail rot, inflamed gills, protuding or loss of scales, gram positive and negative bacteria, fungal infections, vibro, turberculosis, wasting away, and body ulsers. the ingredients of kanacyn consist of 150 mg capsules of water soluble kanamynin sulfate and sodium chloride activity. after symptoms appear for swim bladder disease how soon after is it fatal? [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-07-06 22:00][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35
trystianity Mega Fish Posts: 1028 Kudos: 926 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Mar-2004	[font color="#000080"]The actual cause of SBD is as of yet unknown and under some pretty hot debate. I've never heard of using medication for SBD and I doubt it would do much more than stress your fish out. In most cases, feeding some shelled peas followed by fasting for 3-4 days should do the trick to relieve the impaction. Make sure the water quality of the tank is where it should be and that your fish are getting good, high quality foods. If you're feeding flakes and/or pellets you might want to think about pre-soaking them so they can expand before the fish eat them. Also, feeding live, frozen or gel-based foods regularly seems to help in the prevention of SBD in general. It gives the fish a nice varied diet and is easier on the digestive tract than dried foods. You might want to dose a little melafix just to ease the stress on the fish while they're fasting. If all goes well, your frontosa should be feeling better soon. Stay away from the meds, they're really unnecessary.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35
obsexion909 Fingerling Posts: 34 Kudos: 27 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Apr-2004	before medicating the tank i checked my levels of ammonia and nitrite the levels are were they should be at 0. ph is were it should be aswell. his diet consist of hikari gold cichlid pellets and frozen bloodworms sometimes guppies but not lately [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-07-07 01:59][/span] [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-07-07 02:03][/span] [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-07-07 02:04][/span]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	Melafix is not a stress reliever... It's simply a weak anticeptic for some external maladys. --garyroland.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35
trystianity Mega Fish Posts: 1028 Kudos: 926 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Mar-2004	[font color="#000080"]You mentioned in chat that you're keeping the frontosa with some E. yellows and other fish that really aren't compatible with this cichlid. I've asked to have this thread moved to Cichlid Central to see if we can get you some more help with him, and improve the general setup of your tank. So, just so we can offer you some more help and get the pros in here to fix things up, could you give some more information about the tank setup: Size of the tank, water parameters (pH and hardness), full list of fish (scientific names if you can), what you're feeding, etc. I know that the only problem you're having right now is the swim bladder with the frontosa, but I'm concerned that your setup may lead to more problems later. Hope we can help
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35
Cory_Di Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 7953 Kudos: 2917 Votes: 25 Registered: 19-Dec-2002	Was this fish possibly attacked by another fish? Damage to the swim bladder can occur from other fish if rammed just in the right spot. Hi nitrates are thought to play a role in swim bladder disorder. Make sure your tank's nitrates are below 40ppm along with the ammonia and nitrite being 0. Diet is also thought to play a role. Has it changed recently? Decrease floating pellets in favor of sinking foods. Increasing vegetation would be helpful. Try to get the fish to eat a couple of thawed, frozen peas that have the outer round shell removed. Is the fish bulging on one side? If so, it could be a kidney or the liver swelling and may affect buoyancy. These are just a few thoughts.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:35


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