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friedrice Hobbyist Posts: 87 Kudos: 72 Votes: 3 Registered: 14-Aug-2004 | Im only aware of atheism, agnostism and theism Are there any other "general" beliefs to round up peoples perspectives on the sensitive topic of religion? What are your beliefs and Why? BTW Im wondering what category would i fall into if I DO believe that a god exist but do not believe in worshiping him / her /it. (PS I apologise if i used any incoherent or inconsistent words) |
Posted 14-Apr-2006 07:08 | |
superlion Mega Fish Posts: 1246 Kudos: 673 Votes: 339 Registered: 27-Sep-2003 | There's also a distinction between monotheism, polytheism, and dualism. I think you would fall into the category of people with unusual definitions of "god" and/or "worship". ><> |
Posted 14-Apr-2006 14:52 | |
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bcwcat22 Big Fish Posts: 395 Kudos: 314 Votes: 34 Registered: 16-Jul-2005 | I try to be open to other religons but personally I am a skeptic who goes through Christmas and Easter for the presents and candy and because everyone else does. I think the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are odd considering they have nothing at all to do with the actual story. The 3 Kings celebrations held in other countries are much better as they directly relate to the story, I believe these are celebrated in Spanish speaking countries but I am curious about where exactly its celebrate anyone know? Thats just my thoughts on the subject. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 03:51 | |
friedrice Hobbyist Posts: 87 Kudos: 72 Votes: 3 Registered: 14-Aug-2004 | I was born into catholicism and was brought up in a disciplined catholic school, as I grew older i just saw being a catholic as "a way of life" like it was what was considered "good", "right" and "moral". However the reason for why I should follow Catholicism is currently being challenge because I believe by challenging what we value makes our value / belief system a lot stronger. I always saw "my" religion as the ever omnipotent ob Also another thing which made me think the way i think is how many arguements are wieghted against it. One example would be hypocrisy within the sector. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 10:24 | |
beetledance Hobbyist Posts: 54 Kudos: 21 Votes: 6 Registered: 26-Feb-2006 | I wasn't going to touch this with a 10 foot pole, but... I think the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are odd considering they have nothing at all to do with the actual story. Actually, the "easter bunny" is an ancient symbol of fertility, as are eggs. "Easter" has very old word origins - I think it was an old word meaning "spring." In many variations, it was the name of various goddesses of fertility. For example: Saxon (Eostra), Norse (Ostara), and many others. Notice also such words as estrus, estrogen, can't think of others at the moment. Anyway, as with Christmas, pagan spring celebrations were folded into the Christian versions of the holiday. That's why they persist today. As for Santa, there are many theories on his origin. The modern Santa as we know him was created by Coca Cola, purely as a marketing tool. There is certainly the possibility though, that inspiration was taken from old beliefs regarding elf/dwarf spirits. I can't speak for traditions in other cultures, but in Swedish tradition, there was the Tomten, a little creature that took up residence in houses and was believed to be a benevolent presence. At some point during the 1800's the tomten became a bearer of gifts during solstice celebration. Both of these symbols represent the persistence of very old beliefs into modern culture. As for them having nothing to do with the actual story, it depends on which "story" you believe. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 16:42 | |
beetledance Hobbyist Posts: 54 Kudos: 21 Votes: 6 Registered: 26-Feb-2006 | There's also a distinction between monotheism, polytheism, and dualism BTW, there is also pantheism, the belief that: "God is everything and everything is God … the world is either identical with God or in some way a self-ex |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 16:49 | |
Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001 | As the largest religion with many sections and interpretations of the same, christianity has gained a few things here and there that aren't entirely its own, but believers have bought with them from all over the globe and from past religions etc etc. I believe that Easter (the celebration, not the story behind it) is ba I think modern day Santa Claus is a loooong way from its origins, which I believe are quite varied (which is a classy-sounding way of saying I can tell you about 4 stories that all seem historically accurate, but I couldn't tell you which came first or which is the most Santa-y ). Almost all religions, or more the acts surrounding religions, are ba And friedrice, I was having a discussion with a friend about this recently. Christianity is ba My rather long-winded point being that maybe getting as close to the source as possible (which granted, is a teensy bit tricky) and bypassing some of the chain would be an interesting thing to do, if only to see how the same text can be interpretted in many different ways. Maybe not questioning so much as exploring with new eyes. This is a baaaad topic to get me started on Belief is such a personal thing, so many influences. I have a hunch its like fingerprints, no two exactly the same. I hope I have not offended. I just find it a fascinating topic |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 16:50 | |
katieb Fish Addict Posts: 697 Votes: 69 Registered: 03-Jul-2004 | The modern Santa as we know him was created by Coca Cola, purely as a marketing tool. Claim: The modern image of Santa Claus — a jolly figure in a red-and-white suit — was created by Coca-Cola. Status: False. http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp All this isn't to say that Coca-Cola didn't have anything to do with cementing that image of Santa Claus in the public consciousness. The Santa image may have been standardized before Coca-Cola adopted it for their advertisements, but Coca-Cola had a great deal to do with establishing Santa Claus as a ubiquitous Christmas figure in America at a time when the holiday was still making the transition from a religious observance to a largely secular and highly commercial celebration. In an era before color television (or commercial television of any kind), color films, and the widespread use of color in newspapers, it was Coca-Cola's magazine advertisements, billboards, and point-of-sale store displays that exposed nearly everyone in America to the modern Santa Claus image. Coca-Cola certainly helped make Santa Claus one of the most popular men in America, but they didn't invent him. I'll do graffiti, If you sing to me in French. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 17:50 | |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 | I belief in marshmallow peeps. Nuff said. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 19:03 | |
beetledance Hobbyist Posts: 54 Kudos: 21 Votes: 6 Registered: 26-Feb-2006 | ok ok, so maybe "created" was too strong a word. I realize that Coke only took inspiration from what was already there, but they did create an image to serve their purposes. It was this image that stuck. And it remains that marketing is an extremely distasteful component of holidays today. Enough about Santa. Back to the important topic here: I belief in marshmallow peeps. Nuff said. Hey man, to each his own. I'll trade ya my marshmallow peeps for any chocolatey-type things. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 19:37 | |
superlion Mega Fish Posts: 1246 Kudos: 673 Votes: 339 Registered: 27-Sep-2003 | |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 20:26 | |
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 | *believe. |
Posted 16-Apr-2006 21:59 | |
poisonwaffle Mega Fish Posts: 1397 Kudos: 591 Registered: 11-Feb-2003 | I don't know what I believe about easter... but let's put it this way: this morning my parents dragged me out of bed and made me go to mass, and when I got there, I slept thru the whole thing Reguarding Santa - ba Yes, I do know that I'm a poor demented little freak who needs to spend a few more weeks in the loony bin, you don't need to remind me... but if you feel the need to do so, please feel free |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 01:35 | |
katieb Fish Addict Posts: 697 Votes: 69 Registered: 03-Jul-2004 | "ok ok, so maybe "created" was too strong a word. I realize that Coke only took inspiration from what was already there, but they did create an image to serve their purposes. It was this image that stuck." Although some versions of the Santa Claus figure still had him attired in various colors of outfits past the beginning of the 20th century, the jolly, ruddy, sack-carrying Santa with a red suit and flowing white whiskers had become the standard image of Santa Claus by the 1920s, several years before Sundlom drew his first Santa illustration for Coca-Cola. As The New York Times reported on 27 November 1927: A standardized Santa Claus appears to New York children. Height, weight, stature are almost exactly standardized, as are the red garments, the hood and the white whiskers. The pack full of toys, ruddy cheeks and nose, bushy eyebrows and a jolly, paunchy effect are also inevitable parts of the requisite make-up. Sorry, urban myths are a pet peeve of mine I'll do graffiti, If you sing to me in French. |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 01:46 | |
swiftshark88 Enthusiast Posts: 205 Kudos: 143 Votes: 61 Registered: 17-Apr-2005 | Cup, im with you, i am supposedly a catholic, in that i go to church because my family does, and i go to cathlic school, but i dont nesscessarily follow it all the way, i do my own thing with religion. but as far as im concernd, peeps and chocolate, peeps and chocolate. Nick "Impossumable- unable to play dead" |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 07:01 | |
Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 | I belief in marshmallow peeps. I was raised Catholic but have considered myself agnostic for many years. To each his/her own ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 14:06 | |
katieb Fish Addict Posts: 697 Votes: 69 Registered: 03-Jul-2004 | Im Catholic and Anti-Peep. I'll do graffiti, If you sing to me in French. |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 20:34 | |
crazyred Fish Addict LAZY and I don't care :D Posts: 575 Kudos: 360 Votes: 293 Registered: 26-Aug-2005 | I'm Back-Row Southern Baptist and I firmly believe in hollow milk chocolate bunnies and malted milk eggs. /:' "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder." |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 21:47 | |
longhairedgit Fish Guru Lord of the Beasts Posts: 2502 Kudos: 1778 Votes: 29 Registered: 21-Aug-2005 | Im agnostic, unless you count a mild sense of gaia worship, but I was wondering what satanists do for easter? Eat everybodys eggs and carry shovels ? |
Posted 17-Apr-2006 22:00 | |
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