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[font color="#C00000"]ok if you haven't finished the book get out of here now]:|because I need to rant, and don't feel the other thread is the place for it, as I kept sticking my nose in it to see what was going onSo with that said, can we call this the FP Spoiler Thread for HP-HBP?[/font]


OK I sat up last night because I promised Kitten I'd finish the book. And well I hit Chapter 26-The Cave, and something happened and I couldn't put the damn book down]:|I could have so easily just picked it up and finished this morning, yeah right

Can I pointedly say I am not happy at all, I'm very ticked off, ok this morning when I finished I was very ticked off, now I'm just hurt, and depressed:#(

How the hell (I'm sorry) could she kill Dumbledore? OK she had to kill a character, and Aragog, wasn't enough of a character to count What about Professor Slug? We knew that Snape couldn't be the Professor for Dark Arts next book why not him and/or Draco? Why did she kill Dumbledore? I don't care that she was hinting at it the whole flipping book]:|he could have died in the next one, not this one]:|

OK that rant is over for a bitI think

Is it just me or does anyone else think it is too late for Harry to try to push Ginny away in order to protect her? Let's face it Snape knows, and we can kind of tell if Snape knows, Voldemort (he who must not be named) is gonna know soon if he doesn't already...And I think Ginny is too strong willed to just back down, and let Harry go...I imagine that not only are Hermione, and Ron going to be helping, but I think Ginny will be there as well...

Does anyone think that George and Fred might start watching who they sell stuff to now? It's awful that the black out dust had to be used against those they love...

And where did the Other brother (can't think of names) go to? He wasn't mentioned at all

Of course I was surprised that Fleur was willing to stay and be with Bill...I didn't think she was well that wayand Tonks and Lupin? I never suspected, but it really does add up, doesn't it?

Oh yes I've gone on long enough, and now I'll stop, anyone else have somethingOr am I all alone in this thread? hml

EDIT: To change the title, so everyone knows for sure what we are talking about, and doesn't accidentally wander in if they haven't finished the book.

Last edited by just beginning at 20-Jul-2005 21:12

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

You are not alone Heidi . Well, I cried at the end of this book just as much as I did at the end of Book 5. But, the more I think about it, the more Dumbledore's death kind of makes sense (whereas Sirius' still doesn't ]:|). I don't think there is any way Harry could have the final showdown in book 7 with Dumbledore still around - Dumbledore would never be able to just let Harry go and do what he has to do, he's too protective and too powerful.

I've been reading some theories that Dumbledore planned his own death, and that Snape really is still a member of the Order...not sure about those, but there are some convincing arguments, especially about Snape. It almost seems as though he might have taken an unbreakable vow to protect Harry at some time in the past, because even though he's had countless opportunities to kill him (including the night of Dumbledore's death), and has never hid his hatred for him, he always protected him when it came down to it.

I don't know...so much still has to be revealed, more stuff about Harry's parents and Lily in particular...I think the final book is going to be insane. When I was heading HBP I had the sensation of a very slow crawl up a rollercoaster, not so up and down the whole time as in the other books. Not quite so many revelations, although of course the stuff about Voldemort's past and the Horcruxes was all very interesting. I think most of the big revelations are being saved for book 7.

*sigh* two years are going to go so slowly!

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. - Oscar Wilde

P.S. I don't think Ginny is going to be there the whole of book 7. I think it has to be the three of them, and maybe some of the others will come back into it later on. Not sure. But I think having Ginny around would be too distracting for Harry while he is going after Voldemort.

Of course the question has to be asked, will they all survive the next book...I can't see one of the kids being killed, but you never know, JKR has surprised us in the past.

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. - Oscar Wilde

Aragog should've lived She could've done many things with that spider

She must have her reasons for kkilling old dumbly door, maybe he can be the headmaster of the school as a ghost> Or portrait?

Anyway, she must have her reasons

Yes I'm sure she has her reasonsstill upset about the whole bit, and am going to go back and reread bk 5 again I have a feeling about something...

i went to [link=mugglenet]http://www.mugglenet.com" style="COLOR: #FF1493[/link] And they were mentioning in one of the spoilers about the initials in the locket maybe belonging to Serious's brother (please excuse the spellingI think I'll see how long I can go without sleep) And then it also mentioned that the actual locket may have been the one that the Order of the Phoenix found while cleaning out the House of Black...and I went back and sure enough they found a very heavy locket that noone could open OK now somewhere I either read or dreamed or I've lost itsomeone was killed in a caveI want to say that is where RB was killed, when he was trying to leave/escape the Death Eaters...so it's back to rereading book 5 to see if I can find that section again...anyone else remember that?

And dude there are many things JKR could have done with Aragog, let me name themkept Hagrid happy, terrified Ron, made Ron wet the bed from fear, fed gooblyplanks (the idiotic evil teacher from bk 5) to, scared ron, terrified me with, uh oh let's feed it and the clan death eaters OK enough said I hate spiders as much or maybe more than Ronso Aragog being gone doesn't bother me

And Just Beginning you're right there still isn't a good enough reason to have taken Black away from Harry:#(not a good enough reason at alland yes that is the only way i'm handling Dumbledore's death is by convincing myself he had to die because he wouldn't be able to allow Harry to go on and do what must be done in bk 7...

Oh one last thing before i go loony:%)
Anyone else catch that Kreacher had tried to take the Ring of Slitherin out of the room while they were cleaning? I know it was in book 5, I said I was going back and looking for something But, it was when Kreacher got caught with the ring, that was a uh thingy that contains a piece of spirit (I said I was losing itI really need to sleep sometimes soon) Kreacher through a huge fit? I'm wondering if Kreacher doesn't know some of what is going onor maybe just maybe some of the items are or were in the house?

Like I said that's that for now I've got to get some sleep, or at least tryheidi

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

They could've used Aragog as a distraction for some reason i guess

Im also re-reading 5 (great mind think alike But then again, sometimes people are just lucky )

Last edited by dude_dude at 21-Jul-2005 03:47

Maybe I took it wrong, but with Dumbledore's arm, all black and withered. Could he have survived much longer with that? So far the books have been about Dumbledore as much as Harry maybe for the last book it is Harry coming into his own.

Ginny will be back at the end of the last book...just you wait, she will come in and help Harry. I am still in tears about Snape, he was my favorite character. I can't wait to find out what will happen between him and Harry in the last book.

I did find that it left a lot of unanswered questions. Harry said he wasn't going back to Hogwarts for the 7th term...where is he going? To Black's house that he inherited?



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Yeah, I think Dumbledore might have been dying and he knew it. That's why there's a possibility that he 'planned' his own death - maybe after he did whatever hurt his hand, he made the plan with Snape to finish him off?

Yep, I read about the locket thingy too - very interesting. I definitely think RAB is Regalus Black. I don't remember a mention of the cave in book 5 though, but I'll definitely re-read it. Might re-read the whole series from 1-6 just to see if there are any clues I've missed.

I do think Kreacher knows more than it seems. It's going to be veeery interesting to see what happens now that Harry is his official master.

I think Harry's going to Godric's Hollow in book 7 - didn't he say something about going back to where it all started? I think this will be where he learns more about his parents. He'll probably go back to Grimmauld Place too, especially if he has to destroy the locket or at least find out what happened to it. I wonder if it's going to be a problem that Dumbledore was the secret-keeper for the location of Order headquarters, now that he is dead?

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. - Oscar Wilde

Oh I hadn't thought of thatWill anyone be able to even see Grammould Place nowor will the magic disappear since Dumbledore has died:#(I want to go back and reread the whole series as well, but first I need to find out who it was that died in the cave, and I'm just not sure if it was book 5 or 6I reread book 5 the week before bk 6 came out so now I'm confused And yes I think he did/almost sure he did mention going back to where his parents were killed, that was at the very end Slowly feeling better about the book, though I have a feeling I'll be back in tears once I reread it allheidi

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle