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You have to check this out... It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/index.php

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

I can't believe those people are serious. In their FAQ, they list a diameter and a circumference of the Earth. Those are both measurements of a circular object.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

Circumferences and diameters are possible in circular (but flat) objects as well as spheres.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

I always assumed people who said the earth was flat meant like a rectangular prism or something.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

"the flat/sphere debate"

And here I thought the earth was a geoid...

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Here's what they think the Earth looks like... If you read all their little theories about how they think things work, it nearly seems plausible.

There are certain important things that they can't explain, however, such as Foucault pendulum among others...

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

And what's the reason for the alleged conspiracy?

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

They don't know... But for some reason, they believe there is indeed some sort of conspiracy.

Me and my sister were messing with them here earlier today... She's the MasterMolasses.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Hot Karl?

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

Yes.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

lame. .-.

yeah, flat earth society is pretty cool, but they're no match for the HOLLOW earth society. These people are my favorite!

http://www.voyagehollowearth.com/

Notice on the itinerary:

"Days 15-16 Take a monorail trip to City of Eden to visit Palace of the King of the Inner World. "

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Back in the saddle!

All these people are nuts! I think they've lost it.

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~~Melissa~~
"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."

*flips the world over to look for 4 elephants and a giant turtle....*

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Actually, I think the Flat Earth forums are partly a self inflicted joke. There seems to be a fair amount of tongue in cheek humour in there among the so-called 'devotees'. it's almost as if the entire Forum is a very large exercise in pseudoscience satire, because in numerous places in the Flat Earth forums, there are sensible posts too, including a few rolling their eyes at the ID/creationist brigade. It's only the 'flat earth' issue that exudes craziness, and even then, some of the 'crazy' posts have more than a hint of 'tongue in cheek' about them.

Speaking of which, one of the creationist links they put up (with more than a hint of suggestion that the site was a steaming heap of intellectual dung) was this one, which goes to show how desperate some people are to twist science to fit religious dogma.


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002

That site is nothing compared to Answers in Genesis, which spews more nonsense on a daily basis than I ever thought was possible.

They think that Tyrannosaurus rex (and in fact all carnivores) ate plants while living in the Garden of Eden, completely ignoring the fact that these animals are actually physically incapable of digesting vegetable matter.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

these animals are actually physically incapable of digesting vegetable matter.

How do you know? There's no fossil record of the bacteria in their guts. And sure their teeth aren't made to chew, but birds don't even have teeth and eat vegetable matter...

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Birds that ate plants also have gizzards with rocks that they use to grind plants, instead of teeth. We've found many species of sauropod fossils that have these rocks too, because they could not chew plants. But out of the numerous Tyrannosaurus fossils we've found, and I believe the genus is one of the most commonly represented in the fossil record? No rocks in any of their bellies, sorry.

And even if these animals did have plant-digesting bacteria in their intestines, their guts were not nearly large enough to make this process effective at all. Do you know why theropods are bipedal while sauropods are quadripedal, even though the two groups of dinosaurs are closely related?

It's because the sauropods' guts had to be so large to digest plant matter that they could no longer walk upright. Even the prosauropods, the ancestors of the sauropods who still somewhat resembled the ancestors of both theropods and sauropods, had to walk on all fours the vast majority of the time (though they could rear up on their hind legs for short periods of time).

The theropods, because they ate meat (which is easy to digest), retained small guts and therefore the ability to walk upright. They are completely incapable of digesting plant matter, this is honestly just common sense. Therefore, Answers in Genesis does nothing more than spread lies that make no sense about scientific topics, just so it can fit in with their fairytales...

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Provided one has the correct dentition, there is no need for gizzard stones. However, tyrannosaurus, nay, therapods in general, did not have anything near capable of preliminarily breaking up any trace amounts of cellulose. Try stabbing a leaf of spinach with two pencils and see where you go with that.

As Natalie said, though it is not a prerequisite of herbivores to walk on all fours, you see that even the segnasaurid type dinos, not to mention hadrosaurs (and iguanodontids), hypsos, and certain species of ceratopsians, which all did the two-foot tango (more or less), all had huge secondary gut chambers, which may well have housed the dinosaurian analogues to the reticulum (which several grazing families are believed to have had), omasum, etc. The T-rex gut, by comparison, is compacted down just below the ribcage as to hold a fairly large stomach to maximize its primary (and only) digestive process. However, this single treatment of HCl is by no means capable of obtaining any significant amount of sellulose breakdown, and thus, pretty much all the nutrients that went in to the carnosaur comes right out the back end.

Prosauropods, also, in certain genera, were believed to have eaten minimal amounts of carnivorous material, which is perhaps why their guts were not quite as predisposed to four-legging it. Although, these animals, such as rojasaurus (sp?) were not beleived to as closely related to the true sauropods as were known vegetarians, such as plateosaurus.

They think that Tyrannosaurus rex (and in fact all carnivores) ate plants while living in the Garden of Eden

Oh, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...

So the marks on Triceratops fossils that mate neatly with Tyrannoausrus teeth, they were the result of the dinos getting up close and personal in an American Football game?

At some point Natalie, I might take a closer look at that website. Trouble is, I usually have better things to do with my time than spend long periods poring over the more florid excesses of people who devote their energies to futile attempts to push the square peg of reality into the round hole of their belief systems.


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002