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Indeed Babel... what someone deems as private should stay private, and it is very distressing to see it referred to as such.

And as for the 25 minutes of being ignored thing, I'm sure it's happened to everyone a few times. I know Ive entered the chat and not received a big warm invitation a few times. But I don't let it bug me, I understand that some people in the chat may not know me or may not even like me. But I don't take it personally.

Perhaps if the PM wouldnt "eat" the chat no one would care or even know people where PMing and no one would feel "odd" about it. If everyone knew when everyone else was having a 1on1 conversation in MSN the world would be a very paranoid place...

[span class="edited"][Edited by john.stone 2004-07-06 09:44][/span]

man o man.. i love the chat. had some fun before... joe acted like.. uhh how can i put it... tryst kept talkin about crackers -_-'

any intellectual conversation in the chat turns into.... well that..

Actually Babel, I don't think he said anything hurtful towards anyone else at all.
When I read it, the only message I got was that he just felt that it was weird that people chose to discuss fish privately in the fish chat room. He didn't come out and say that it was horrible that you talked in private, he didn't even ask why you did it. The only reason your name was even brought up was because it was the most convienient example for his arguement.
*shrugs* That's just my take on the whole thing, but please don't think I'm being mean or taking sides, I just hate to see people argue over something that was a giant misunderstanding anyways.
Besides, go back and read the very first post of this thread...this was supposed to be fun and funny...let's not make this the opposite.
*Contemplates the saying "Can't we all just get along"? and throws a playful pea at Babel*
Brandi

If everyone knew when everyone else was having a 1on1 conversation in MSN the world would be a very paranoid place...

Indeed
The number of times I'm working, holding multiple seperate MSN conversations, chatting, PM-ing and posting, well the other person could very well be doing it too...but do I really care, more often than not NO I really don't want to know. Just like you can't know what someone else is thinking. PM's are similar, if it involved you then you'd know, since they don't concern you *shrug*

*PM's Shannen* .

^_^

Well heck, I associate stuff, and the part of the conversation that's copied that reflects my statements shows that I was on a quest to get...the princess/duchess...

Probably the most recent movie that considered such an approach would be Shrek...which included the song, Why Can't We Be Friends?...

*Waves bye-bye to his point* Yep, there he goes...guess it was time for him to migrate elsewhere...I do wish he woulda hung around until I finished my statement though...

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Oh dear lord........

:%)

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HEY! What the crap?!?!?

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My cloud doesn't float!!!!

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AHHHHHH! PEAS!!!!

*Grabs cloud and runs away*

stupid allergies...

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Joe Potato


Edit: I'm really good at putting smilies in the right places...

[span class="edited"][Edited by Joe Potato 2004-07-07 15:45][/span]

Megil is right. I talk about him behind his back all the time.
Megil You know we all like ya man!

Easy Babel, he just has a conspiracy theory going around in his head. He didn't mean anything by it.

EDIT: Alex seems to want everyone to believe that his conspiracy theory is now gone. believe what you want.

[span class="edited"][Edited by robofish 2004-07-06 11:57][/span]

IT WAS PRIVATE THAT'S WHY IT WAS DISCUSSED THRU PM MEGIL! ]:|]:|]:|

I WAS HEARTBROKEN FROM LOSING HIM, AND FELT GUILTY YOU NEED TO LEARN RESPECT OF OTHERS .


^_^

Frankly, I think buffoonery gets us no where. As I'm sure many of you know, I only participate in the most serious discussions in chat, and when people slip into random acts of silliness, I think it detracts from the overall experience.

Or, it could make the chat room the best place on Earth.

I'll go with the latter.

Joe Potato

well i was jsut pointing out what i have seen. i alrdy dealt with my problems in chat, so im fine. And i agree Pm's can be a great addition as long as they are used to supplement discussions not when 8 out of nine people are just Pming away.


[span class="edited"][Edited by Spiderman 2004-07-06 07:48][/span]

I think that the ignoring of certain people in certain instances is just going to occur. Obviously, just like in our lives outside of the glowing box in front of us, we aren't going to be friends with everybody. Just as there are people in our home towns that we don't necessarily get along with, there're gonna be people on here that we don't get along with too. I don't think the privacy or topics in the chat room should be controlled. I just think that it'll remain an unavoidable problem, and I think we all need to be both more considerate of the others that are present along with being more understanding as to why some people desire/require more privacy for their conversations.

I get annoyed with some people from time to time in there too, but there's no reason to hold a grudge. People will talk behind other peoples' backs for all eternity in all situations. I've even developed freindships with people that I initially was turned off by. By continuing to talk to them, I got to know them and now appreciate what's different about them. True, we may not all get along all the time, but we certainly have our moments...

I think the creativity, sillyness, goofiness, and soap operatic discussions that have a tendency of occurring in the chat room are a way of us all just being us. We can tease, joke, laugh, and just enjoy talking with other people. We can let off the steam from our day with the SAME people every day and welcome a few new faces every day, week, month, or year. I enjoy going in there so that the people ALREADY know what's going on in my life enough to where they can ask me this-or-that question about what's actually going on at present. If I just wanted to talk to random folks, I'd go in some random chatroom and meet someone with whom I would never speak again. I enjoy getting to know the different people and having them get to know me. We're all strange in our own way, but we get to where we enjoy those nuances...

I would fear that some of the things said in this thread and in the chat room might force some people to try to instill a "fish-only" level of discussion in the room. I don't know how much it's been discussed or not, it's just the feeling I'm starting to get. I really hope this idea never gets going because I think that the chat room would resemble more of a crisis hotline than a chat room. Instead of folks going in there and learning about the people, they'd just visit in the place of an emergency or just to learn someone else's fish. Like I said, I think such an idea would suck personally...

I don't even know whether the author of this thread thought the discussion he pasted was funny or just stupid. It doesn't really matter to me. I found it quite entertaining at the time, and it made me smile. That's all I was looking for by being in the chat room, and that's all I'm normally looking for. Every once in awhile I'll ask for help on some issue, and if anyone ever comes in asking for help, I'm very quick to attempt to help them to the best of my ability. But when such situations are not present, why not just screw around and have a good time? I know I will, and I hope that some more of ya'll, along with those who already do, will join us in there in our buffoonery

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I have never seen anyone in chat get mad for being ignored. If you don't want to be ignored, get into the convo Usually the people that hang out in chat are more than willing to bring people into the discussion.
I think PM's are a good thing, because before them if I had someone I wanted to talk to alone, we had to wait until the other replied in the mailboxy thingy.
I'm sorry if anyone left you out Spiderman...Try to get yourself involved though. Being noticed is a 50%-50% thing..no one will notice you if you're not putting in any effort to be noticed.
Brandi

it might have but reason had they in keeping it secret? and why did babel angrily reply when trys noted that they should stop PMing. also i believe PM's still are recorded in the log.



[span class="edited"][Edited by Spiderman 2004-07-05 21:48][/span]

yeah..what He said ^^^^^^

babelfish was PMing J on a dead albino cory.... as if the discussion of any fish related topic must be kept private in the chat room.

..maybe it was because it only concerned them? besides, too much stuff'll fill up the chat log..thing..kinda
Alex, u're too Paranoid

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may i note that all serious matters in chat must be discussed via PM... becuase it is apparent that the chat has become the playgrouind for the creative.

proff of this may be seen today when babelfish was PMing J on a dead albino cory.... as if the discussion of any fish related topic must be kept private in the chat room. perhaps that is why we have such silly unintelligent yet creative discussion b/c many members of FP choose to have PMing discussions as oppsosed to the public kind. This excess use of PMage has also led many members of the chat to believe that certain individuals may be spreading lies or talking behind their backs, and this has unfortunetly caused certain members to feel unwanted and b/c people are so involved in PMing conversations the new addition to the chat room often goes unnoticed for up to 25 minuts before they acknowledge another persons existence in the chat room. so IMo the chat room has become a battle ground between members, and the creative outlet is usually the only way to break the tension. and I have come to understand this after being ignored many times and by having a chat window of only 6 lines in length. so i make this not up from my head btu speak from the experiences i and several others have felt.