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Cup_of_Lifenoodles	http://www.scotcat.com/loricariidae/ancistrus_sp_l182.htm http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14284&highlight=l182 http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10471&highlight=l182 http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14055&highlight=L182 http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8939&highlight=L182 http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7359&highlight=L182 http://www.plecofanatics.com/gallery/data/511/DSC00167.JPG The picture on the bottom consists of a 4” male ancistrus domesticus.
Posted 01-Feb-2006 03:18
Jason_R_S	Edited by Jason_R_S Reject the first link you posted does in fact say 20 cm in the second link you posted...the first poster says 7" or 8" TOTAL LENGTH. that would mean about 5.5-6" SL. the second post says he caught several large bn that MAY be L182. then the next poster says she had an 8" male, but is she talking about standard length or total length. if total length then that would be around 6-6.5" standard length the third link you provided says 6" SL in the 4th link you posted, one person claims to have an 8" pair but another person questions the identity of that pair and says that it doesn't look like L182 the 5th link you posted...I was under the impression that starlight bn (L182) lose their spots as they mature. that would mean the fish in that pic is NOT an L182 and another member in that thread speculates it could be a spotted medusa...a different species from L182 the 6th link you posted...the guy SAYS it is 6-7" the 7th link you posted is a pretty picture, but says nothing about exactly how large that bn is so of all the links you posted, only the first really gives any weight to your argument. the other 6 links you gave do nothing to help you prove that the L182 bn grow larger than the size already given in our profile.
Posted 01-Feb-2006 14:39
Cup_of_Lifenoodles	Edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles …Fish profiles on this site, I believe, do not specify SL or TL, so, therefore, should be viewed as TL. Correct me if I’m incorrect on this notion. Again, if SL is not specified, I’m going to assume profiles on this site are meant to reflect TL. Otherwise, MANY of the profiles here are in dire need of revision. I’m assuming I overlooked something. Furthermore, subsequent posters on the subject of the second link have noted (including an exporter of these fishes) that the sizes quoted are consistent if not slightly smaller than what he’s seen. 6” SL makes for an 8”+ fish. Check the picture below. It is BND's L-182. That is the very same fish as the 8" ancistrus hoplogensys he speaks of, and most definitely exhibits what I know as L-182 coloring and the identity of this poster’s fish has been confirmed in further posts. I’m off, but just searching “L182” on the boards, provided you have an account will turn up a large amount of like-posts. Also, on his photobucket account, I believe he put a ruler to the fish. L-182 do not lose their spots as they mature, though the spots become slightly smaller (I own one and am in fact the topic starter on the second thread). As you can see from the PLETHORA of pictures above from PC, scotcat, plecofanatics, etc., adults all retain their spots. That is definitely not an L-255 either. They remain at around 6”, have far thicker cutaneaous rostral processes, have a distinctly broad head, and eye size/placement that is inconsistent with the fish shown. By all topical means, the fish, at least to what we know of it on plecofanatics, is a 12” A. punctatus/hoplogensys (it was similarly identified on PC), which is L-182’s designated scientific name (there’s still a judgement call between L-183 and the later species, but L-183 does not reach those sizes).
Posted 01-Feb-2006 18:49
Natalie	Reject The profiles on this site are supposed to be standard length, as that's how most aquarists measure their fish. If the site listed total length, the male Montezuma Swordtail would be listed as reaching a length of 7"+ instead of 2.6". Most, if not all, of the profiles on this site are using standard length, so we should keep it consistent.
Posted 01-Feb-2006 19:33