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It is odd that not more ppl do the "non" co2 instead

slickrb is using this method on his 10G, you should take a look at his log.

you do know that took about an hour right?

Just an hour? Man, you are quick But see it this way, an hour or two, or even a few days invested now will pay off big time in the long run. Patience is the name of the game. To be honest with you, it took me about 3 months of research and development until I felt ready to set up my 125G, inculding, but not limiting, to reading loads of documents (books and online) and asking a gacillion questions here at FP.

Now, if you tell me that you read through my log in one hour as well then I have to stop to help you

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

IT would take like 1 week to read your log... LOL
3 months to set up your 125... I would go CRAZEY.... LOL I cant STAND empty tanks.....
well I have this AMAZING book on aquarium plants, I got it at borders a month or so ago, its ALL about aquarium plants and planted tanks ect. so I have been reading that for my resurch, I will have to get the name/author later... very good book
thanks little_fish /:'

slickrb is using this method on his 10G, you should take a look at his log.

*Do you know were it is located?*

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Oops..did it right this time

*Kristin*

Hi blazeybird

Your pictures look good & you're getting some good advice. Sorry if you've answered this & I've missed it, but what do you have in the breeding trap in the 29G?

Cheers,

Cheers
TW

3 months to set up your 125... I would go CRAZEY

But I only had an empty tank for about 1 month. 2 months were invested even before I started to buy the equipment. But I hear you, having all the goods just sitting around is not easy.

Yeah, let us know what the name of the book (and maybe author) is, I am always on the lookout for a good book that I don't have yet.

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

" whats in the breeder"
Well I formally had playties and guppies (still have a female guppy that is preg in a diff. tank I might have to give her away with her fry as my tank is already stocked... or over. ) well anyways, I have baby plants in their, (baby java moss and java fern) just because if they are left in the big mean tank, they either
1. get messed up by the big fish and end up in the filter or
2. they are so small that if they are left in there, the fish like to mess with them (I dont have any herbavors, only omnavors, well exept my gouramies...) and so... I just like to keep them seperet

Thanks girliegirl for the link... It took me all last night and this morning to read but it was good and funny! you guys are just TOOO funny

Ok Little_fish, the book is called....... *goes to get book*
Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants
by Peter Hiscock

Here is a link (its only like $16.99 or something their but mine was $35 LOL)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764155210/qid=1150458480/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-5925652-2801468?v=glance&s=books

I REALLY like this author... here is another book I just found that I whant... LOL ( I REALLY Like books, I also have an encyclopedia of fish too, freshwater, salt and pond.... its very good.. and big, LOL)
here is the other book I would like... LOL
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764155490/qid=1150458594/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/103-5925652-2801468?v=glance&s=books

Hope this helps

Yes,

I have the "Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants" as well, it is really not a bad book and I remember the hours that I spent on the bus (to and from work) looking at the plants over and over again, comparing requirements, making lists of what plants I like vs. what plants are feasible. Fun times

The other one you link to seems nice as well, and I may go to the bookstore to have a closer look at it. A purchase, for me, would depend on things like:

- how many of these scenarios are feasible for me?
- does it say anything I don't know yet?

Another book that I really like is Aquarium Plants by Christel Kasselmann, but it is a little pricey and does't speak much about design and such.

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

AWSOME, I havnt seen the other either... but will have to go to the BOOK STORE and check it out!! oh I was reading the other LOG and was wondering if some water wysteria (sp) would be a good plant for either my 10 or 29? I am going to try to do the same with my 10 as my 29 but my 10 has higher lighting than my 29... I beive iit is..... *runs to look*
15 watts for my 10gall,
so would that be good?

blazeybird,

Are you a trial Premie or a real one ?

In either case (), Wisteria is a rather versatile plant that does well (or at least ok) in a broad range of light conditions. Your 10G is actually not that much better light than your 29G as the smaller the tank is the more light (in wpg) to achieve similar results.

I like Wisteria and I currently have it in 3 of my 4 tanks, but I certainly have more light (the least is 2wpg in my 20G Long QT) than you do.

I would say: buy one bunch (or stem) and see how it goes. That should be a rather cheap experiment.

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

I have grown wisteria in low light (~ 0.7wpg in a 55g) . It grew...but it didn't look great. It looks alot better in higher light, but it should grow. I used it for cycling, because it is a fast grower.

I also have the Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants book. Its great for the different kinds of plants. I really want a good aquascaping book. I have an Amano book, but its not great IMO. I could never pull off anything he has done. I want a more beginner friendly aquascaping book.

*Kristin*

oh im just doing trial.... my parents would like.. never let me actually buy something like that but allwell... maybe I will buy just one water wistaria.. hmmmm

Here is a list of low light plants that should work. I love crypts, you just have to plant them and leave them alone. They may melt after planting, but will come back.

And here is the list of medium-low plants, that adds a few more on to the first list. They don't show wisteria on this list, but they do show watersprite, which looks alot like wisteria.

*Kristin*

Oh thanks girliegirl!!! I am doing that RIGHT NOW

Oh I love the
Cryptocoryne walkeri
Green Hygro
and the temple plant

My watersprite has done hideously bad in my 29 and it has 1.38 wpg NO lights. I'm not too sure I would consider watersprite a lowlight plant. My wisteria is doing well, but it in my 55 which has 2.36 wpg PC lights....everything is doing well in there.

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~~Melissa~~
"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."

I dont like water sprite cause they are normaly a floating plant right? but thats just what I have heard...

No, you can plant them in the gravel, but mine has never grown and has always fallen apart....could have been destroyed by the fish, but the low light was my #1 suspect.

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~~Melissa~~
"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."

I'm not too sure I would consider watersprite a lowlight plant

I did think it was strange that it was listed in low light. I looked it up on tropica the other day and it said CO2 may be necessary to promote growth, which would also mean higher light (since most people don't have CO2 on low light tanks).
And it has it as high-very high light.

(from www.tropica.com)

That is a cute bird by the way.

*Kristin*

That is a cute bird by the way.

Thanks So much,... She is my BABBY (ask aaspby, he will tell you so... LOL) she is the most spoiled little gal I have ever known, LOL

Having had both Wisteria and Water Sprite, I have to say that the Wisteria is clearly the prettier of the two, but the Water Sprite is growing faster. Yes, as mentinoned before by others, the Water Sprite can be planted in the substrate.

But I cannot say anything about the behavior of Water Sprite in low, or even medium, light settings as I only had it in my high light tank, and there it took off like mad.

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

well I just got about.... 70 pounds or so of peat gravel from walmart for like $3 or something really awsome!! I am going to switch out the gravel in all my tanks (my whole 29, 10 and 2gall,1gall, betta and hospital tank...) YES now i need to go to petsmart to get more plants

blazeybird,

Remember that you want at least 2", better 3" of gravel at the bottom so that your plants have a sufficently high substrate to root in.

Can't wait to see the changes,

Ingo

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Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club

ya I will have to post a pic and have you guys tell me its right... I think it is but..... LOL thanks