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	CORAL OF THE WEEK-------Zoanthus spp.
Fishes Rock Mega Fish Posts: 971 Kudos: 41 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Jan-2003	Oh that stinks, Should i keep it or get rid of this coral? How do you know it is palythoa? What should i look for if i exchange this coral so i won't end up with palythoa again? I am not sure if my LFS will take it back.. HOw bad they are toxinwise? R my fish or other coral are in danger? Am i get sick? How bad? I think i handle that coral couple of times and nothing happen to me so i am confused now but it's better safe then sorry..i guess.. Thanks Nate for your help
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
DarkRealm Overlord Moderator metal-R-us Posts: 5962 Kudos: 2166 Registered: 23-Sep-2002	I have kept Palythoa without any problems......I say if you like them then keep them. Just wash up after you handle them, and wear gloves if you ever frag them. Zoa sites Ebay.com....search for Live Coral http://www.eastcoastclams.com http://www.thesea.org [/href]http://www.frags.org[/href] There are alot more, I just have to dig up the addresses again.....another good site for online coral purchases is http://www.cquarium.com
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
Fishes Rock Mega Fish Posts: 971 Kudos: 41 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Jan-2003	But r they OK with other fish and coral? Do they release poison in the water?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
DarkRealm Overlord Moderator metal-R-us Posts: 5962 Kudos: 2166 Registered: 23-Sep-2002	they will be fine with the fish and coral.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
bonny Ultimate Fish Guru Engineer in waiting Posts: 3121 Kudos: 498 Votes: 7 Registered: 09-Mar-2003	i am going to make an effort to get these corals because then i have a really good reason to keep my families hand out the tanK!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
Fishes Rock Mega Fish Posts: 971 Kudos: 41 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Jan-2003	Thanks Nate
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
Fishes Rock Mega Fish Posts: 971 Kudos: 41 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Jan-2003	i am going to make an effort to get these corals because then i have a really good reason to keep my families hand out the tanK! Nice one Bonny. I also warned my family.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
DarkRealm Overlord Moderator metal-R-us Posts: 5962 Kudos: 2166 Registered: 23-Sep-2002	bumpy bumpy for Adam.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
jayrascoe Small Fry Posts: 0 Kudos: 0 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Aug-2004	Fantastic photography.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
me is already in use Fish Addict Posts: 596 Kudos: 99 Votes: 25 Registered: 02-Dec-2003	Pretty
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	Why can't I see any of the pics?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
nano reefer Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	because this topic is very old
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
pufferpunk Big Fish Posts: 462 Kudos: 395 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Feb-2003	On my forum that wouldn't matter. I would really like to be able to ID the corals I'm interested in (newbie here), especially when folks are selling them online. Anywhere I can look for IDs?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
nano reefer Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004	reef central is a good place
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
DarkRealm Overlord Moderator metal-R-us Posts: 5962 Kudos: 2166 Registered: 23-Sep-2002	The pictures are not available because I had them on my FP premium members site and they were taken away as on of the benefits and we were given other benefits instead. I will Upload some more photos to my photobucket account and post them here.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Returning to palytoxin ... I gather that the Palythoa polyps store these in their tisues as a defence against being eaten. Has there been any reports that these polyps deliver palytoxin to a target creature stung by the cnidoblasts? Because that would constitute a BIG risk if this was the case, particularly if the cnidoblasts were capable of delivering a sting that penetrated the outer epithelial layer of human skin. I've not been able to find any documentation that the corals deliver palytoxin via the cnidoblasts, and furthermore some scientists believe that the polyps do not manufacture the poison as a part of their intrinsic biochemistry, but sequester it from dinoflagellates in their food (the dinoflagellate Ostreopis siamensis I have seen quoted as a potential source). If the latter is true, then Zoanthids grown from fragments cultivated over long periods of time would, eventually, cease to be toxic. However, I'm looking for some confirmation of these details. Be nice to know that some of our favourite reef animals aren't going to kill us during maintenance! Incidentally, anyone who wants to see a palytoxin molecule, take a look at this PDF document]http://users.ox.ac.uk/~magd1571/finalpage/3HandoutB.pdf#search=%22palytoxin%22[/link]. Palytoxin is one amazing molecule - it has 64 steroecentres, and 7 points of geometrical isomerism, which means that there are around 2.3 x 10^21 possible stereoisomers ... and, amazingly, it has been the subject of a total organis synthesis effort in the laboratory ... another illustration of the molecule, and more information on its effects, can be found [link=here. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 18-Sep-2006 01:22
bill2759 Small Fry Posts: 0 Kudos: 0 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-May-2007	Any particular reason why I cannot see the pictures? Bill
Posted 22-May-2007 22:09
mattyboombatty Moderator Tenellus Obsessor Posts: 2790 Kudos: 1507 Votes: 1301 Registered: 26-Mar-2004	This is a very old thread, but I have a few zoanthid pics I can share. Sorry I don't have any palys, just zoanthids. Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients
Posted 25-May-2007 04:12
Melosu58 Hobbyist Posts: 120 Kudos: 86 Votes: 0 Registered: 05-May-2007	Very nice zoo`s MBB. Nice color.
Posted 25-May-2007 13:05
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