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hi
i was wondering if there was a natural way to lower and higher ph without killing my fish, i tried the powder stuff, and that stuff is just nasty and not good for your tank one bit. if you know of any way please let me know

Don't mess with th pH. Your fish will adapt (unless it's 6 or 9)

Kim

kim's right don't mess with the pH unless it is extreme

Anthonym

There are several ways it can be reduced by using a water with a lower PH but if there is some thing in the tank that is raising the PH it will return back.
By removing any thing in the tank that raises the PH. Some rocks will raise the PH.

I have been using a PH buffer for at least 15 years this keeps the PH at a neutral level. My tap water has a high PH level and this is my reason for using it.

What is the PH you are concerned about and what fish are in the tank?

Also what the PH of your water supply?

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Anthony,

i tried the powder stuff

What powder stuff did you try there anyway, was that baking soda?

Ingo

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i used some 8.2 proper Ph stuff
i got it fromt he pet store
i dont know
anyways
i have puffer fish and a pleco
the ph is supposed to be 7.8
and my tap watter is 7.2
so i dont know what else to do.
and can i hae the name of some of those buffers and what are they

Are we talking a dwarf puffer? They will adapt quite well to a broad range of ph and it probably won't bother the pleco either. It would be easier and safer to just leave the ph where it is.

actually i have a green spotted puffer,
but unless you say so i will just leave the ph alone.
thanks for your help you guys

I believe green spotted puffers are brackish water and eventually need full saltwater. In which case the pleco wouldn't really work because they dislike salt and you have more than ph problems.
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You would have to ask people more puffer knowledgeable than me but I think the green spotted puffers do fine in a ph down to 7.0.
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