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Just like so many of us, I made one of these "I have nothing better to do, so let me go to the LFS" runs. I ended up buying 2 plants. Unfortunately, the plant guy wasn't in and the plants were not marked. Downside is that I don't know what plants they are, upside is I paid only $2 per plant .

Both seem to me to be some form of Anubias, and just maybe Crypts. Both have a rather typical Anubias Rhizome. The rhizome seens to have been cut, the longer thin roots are green which indicates to me that they were not burried and the plant most likely used to be anchored to wood or rock. For the time being I just parked them in the tank by burrying the long thin roots in the gravel and having the Rhizome above it.

Pictures speak more than 1000 words, so here is the first plant outside of the tank. The leaf shape is elongated, but seems to be slightly more oval than the one of the second plant:

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First Plant

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Here is the same plant parked in the tank:

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First Plant, part two

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Here is the second plant before being placed in the tank. It has more leaves, they are narrower than the ones of the first plant:

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Second Plant

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Here is the plant being parked:

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Second Plant, Part Two

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And here is a close-up of its rhizome, in case this helps:

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Second Plant, Rhizome

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I'm pretty sure both are anubias species, given the way the leaves go off the rhizome.

Second plant looks like anubias lanceolata from the first pic (with clear vertical line in the middle).

The first one not sure - perhaps afzeli or congensis? Could be a hybrid too.

What does the Kasselmann's book say?


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For the one with the thin leaves I am going to through out a guess of Anubias angustifolia 'Afrxelii'

its the only thin leafed one in my book.

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Thanks Paulus and Wings

based on your info I started to peruse the web (don't have the book with me at work, Paulus - too big ).

So far I don't think I have a clear ID on the plants.
For the first one I have no particular champion, I assume it is either frazeri, or congensis, or even barterii v. nana 'Gabun'.
The second one seems to be most likely lanceolata, followed by the option congensis.
Interestingly (Wings), if found these odd IDs for the plant you mentioned (or didn't - depends on how you view this): there is a plant called Anubias barteri var. angustifolia and a plant that is said to be similar, called Anubias afzelii. Plus, I also found your reference to the Anubias augustifolia var. Afzelii. How confusing

Thanks,

Ingo

EDIT: Oh, and I guess I am right that no matter what the rhizome has to stay above the substrate, right?

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Leaves look too think to be the a. congensis variety, plus growth pattern is different.

Looks to me like [link=this] http://www.tropica.com/default.asp[/link]

You know how it goes with anubias varients, all different names etc. The tropica link actually gives a little explanation.

And yes, rhizome above the substrate

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NowherMan6,

Seems like your link is not pointing to the specific plant you had in mind, but I guess you picked Anubias barteri var. angustifolia (''afzelii''), right?

Makes sense

That leaves us with only the first one that would be still open.

Thanks,

Ingo

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D'oh! Stupid tropica site...

Anyway, the firts one looks like congensis to me, but that big, longer narrow leaf on the left throws me off and makes me think it's a smaller version of the second one...

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The first one looks abit like the pic below, it's my own pic btw.

That's a Spatyphyllium - non aquatic

I think that first plant is neither crypt nor anubias.

I'm skeptical on the second,that's a dodgy looking "rhizome"

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The rhizome on the second looks very much like the rhizome on my old anubias congensis. There's that one tube like round bit, then it turns into that other bit with the leaves growing out. See pic below, the plant on the right attached to the driftwood. Look at the rhizome, very similar IMO.

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That's a Spatyphyllium - non aquatic

Bummer - I will try to get a close-up of that plant's rhizome tonight.

Yeah, the second plant's rhizome was growing straigth up when compared to the leaf position (90 degree angle). I believe this may have to do with the fact that the plant seems to be a child plant that grew completely out of the substrate leaning against some wood/rock, with the only way to grow for the rhizome was up.

NowherMan6 - Man, my eyes are not that good , I barely can see the rhizome in that picture, not to mention compare it to mine.

Thanks again,

Ingo

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I'll crop it down tonight when I'm around PS again. Looks very similar IMO.

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My worry with the second one is that it mat not be a rhizome at all.

Usually Anubias have leaves growing directly off the lenght of the rhizome not just the tip. If you've ever grown plants like C.Balansae you'll see a thick growth at the roots that looks just like a rhizome but is just a thick root stump. But then again you could be right, maybe it's just a piece of anubias broken away from the mother plant.

Time will tell , watch for melting.

The fact that you only had to pay $2 says a lot too.

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Bensaf,

To me the rhizome looks like an Anubias. The leaves have a very similar base than the ones on my Nana and Barteri, extending the "stem" a leaf at a time. Sorry, btw, I couldn't get a good photo of the second smaller plant's rhizome, but it looks just like a much smaller version of the bigger plant's base.

I am also in the camp of people who believe that cheap items usually come with a price , aka there is a problem. But in this case I am most certain that this was not an issue. Let's just say there was a lot of good will by the sales person .

I will keep an eye open for melting and for the time being leave the plants where I parked them, at least until the next water change.

Thanks again,

Ingo

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Isn't it fun getting stuff for cheap or free? My boss yesterday brought me back french frys! I was pumped!

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Yes, i recall the "balansae stump" confusing me but this is pretty different.

The fact that you only had to pay $2 says a lot too.

This is very true, but as LF said, perhaps he has some kind of connection...

Besides, sometimes people just don't know better - there's a place in Jersey that sells huge java ferns and anubias which go for 20+ dollars online for 3-4 bucks

Anyway, for what it's worth, here's a crop of the pic above. Looks pretty similar.

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perhaps he has some kind of connection

Well, I would not go that far, but lets say there where a couple of lucky coincidences coming together.

Anyway, thanks for the shot

I can see the similarities in the rhizome althoug it seems your top part is longer than mine and has leaves coming out along it. Mine is more compact, but this may be because the plant is younger.

Ingo

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