FishProfiles.com Message Forums

yea ottos seem like a good choice if they like the cold water...also yes good idea on the dark substrate, perhaps a black sand would be nice. Also what is scientific name for albino bronze?

stock list now is gonna consist of cories, blind cave fish, and ottos. Question is how much of each keeping in mind i am hoping for the cave fish to attempt to breed if i'm lucky.

While MTS are livebearers, I've yet to be "overrun" with them. Overfeeding and warm temps are what they like, which may be why I haven't got a problem with them @all "overrunning" my tanks.

^_^
Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]

My suggestion for algae control is the rubber nose pleco. Only one in that tank, as they have a ravinous appetite for algae. You will probably have to supliment his feeding with algae wafers, or some kind of plant food, like zuccini or peas, ect. They will handle the temp you have very easily. And, they don't as large as most plecos do.

On another note, The MTS are live bearers as well. You will not be able to control the reproduction of these guys, buy removing egg pacs like other snails will leave. So, if they do decide to reproduce, you will all of a sudden have hundreds of them. Just something to think about.

HTH.....

_____________________________________________________________

There is always a bigger fish...

Pond snails aren't really as beneficial as MTS though, they aren't very good at algae clean up, and wont help with the sand.
MTS only reproduce as much as there is food for, if you aren't overfeeding you shouldnt be overrun with them.

Yea but mts shells are to hard to feed my puffers Pond snails would be perfect due to their thin shells.

My pond snails live in the gravel and they don't eat my plants...

---

I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Pond snails will very well...and they'll eat your plants. MTS are the only snail that won't eat plants and will burrow in the substrate which helps keep it turned.

^_^
Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]

i really dont want reproduction of mts in my tank....do pond snails reproduce by themselves?

They should do okay in that temp, many sources say they prefer 72-82, but I've seen sites that say as low as 64. I've got them in my tank with a temp of 68 right now. This may of course be why I'm not overrun with them like some people say they are .

^_^
Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]

so the mts can live in the 68 degree water?

Bronze are the c. aeneus that cory addict mentioned. Another idea, especially if you go with sand, would be malaysian trumpet snails, MTS for the algae, they'll also help with keeping the sand turned to prevent the anerobic pockets as well as cleaning up leftovers.

^_^
Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]

i am gonna setup a 20 gallon long for some blind cave fish and am trying to make it more realistic as to where they live. i.e. using black gravel or sand for the darker effect.I am also gonna try to make a more realistic cave like environment for them somehow. Anyone have suggestions on how i could do this? I also plan to breed these interesting fish as well.

also does anyone know of any fish that can go in a 20 long at a 68 degree temp? i would preferably like something to eat algae and maybe some scavengers?



Last edited by Azrael_Darkness at 21-Dec-2004 18:25

Ottos will be fine @ 68, they'll especially love it if theres plently of water movement in the tank as well.

On the corys, albino bronze are the ones that will match the blind cave fish....I'd suggest a dark sand substrate to go with the slate tiles idea for the caves.

^_^
Current [link=Contest Rules]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Aquascaping/44382.html?200412022138" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link][/font]

The site profile for otos gives a temp range of 68-79°. Maybe do more research online to see if 68° is definitely ok for them.

I believe Hillstream loaches also tolerate lower temps.



~~~~~~~~~~~~
There is water at the bottom of the ocean

ok so now for the stocklist using cavefish, cories, and an algae eater who can tolerate the 68 degree temp. keep in mind it should be a planted 20 long. Also plant suggestions would be good as well.

c aenus are kind of gray right?

Most corys will be fine in 68 degree water, particularly C. aeneus, C. palateus, and S. barbatus.

I would recommend albino C. aeneus though, as their color (or rather lack of color) matches the cave fish.

---

I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

For the caves you could get some natural slate floor tiles, bust them and use the pieces with some other rocks to make ledges and overhangs. I've done that before and as long as you put the straight edges to the back it looks natural.

Have fun, Mike

what breed of cories? i heard cories should always be in 74 degrees atleast

i beleive corys can live with that, i had when i first started the hobby i had 2 corys at 70 degres, i dont think 68 wont hurt