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Hey bala shark

Where are u from? Maybe I can give u my lonely peppered cory for u

Gee

Gee

!!I think I just learned somthing new!!

Here are the C. cf. paleatus I just got today. They look just like yours. I picked four of them out (the only ones remaining from our last peppered cory shipment) of the newest shipment of regular peppered corys. Were easy to distinguish, with their bolder markings, longer fins, and black dorsal and pectoral fins. They seem very active though, which is good.

Here are some pictures... The black fins are kind of hard to see because I took the photos right after I introduced them.



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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Nice fish, I'm glad you decided to get more! Cories in particular are always worth buying, just for the entertainment value alone.

As a side note there, those "julii" cories you have are actually trilineatus. True juliis are very rare, and have a slightly different patterning than your fish. Instead of the interconnected lines on their head, julii cats have small, unconnected spots. The difference is very subtle, let me tell you!

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Last edited by bala shark at 06-Feb-2005 20:26

I did just that Cory Addict... went and got some more Cory's I bought 7 of them, 1 Paleatus to replace the one that died yesterday, and 6 Julii's. I can't tell there sex yet as their fairly small still. The new Julii's seem to have made themselves at home already, resting on the bogwood, hanging out with the Paleatus's, and just laying on the Anubias leaves. They seem quite happy overall with lots of lounging space

I also picked up a small school of 5 White Clouds for a 10 gal. My male Betta has them on the run now and then... can't blame him, their in his turf now! He just makes the odd quick dart now and then, no chasing from one end to the other. But their to quick for his kind .

I'd show you the pics I took of them, but I can't figure out how to post multiple pics in a post. I'll try later on

I would go with Ian's opinion that you could have six more corys in there. Since Corydoras species are not territorial towards each other and love to pile on top of each other, you can rule out "swimming space/territories" as concern when stocking a tank with them, just as long as you don't go overboard.

Instead, and this is what's good about planted tanks, is that you only have to worry about nitrate levels when adding more corys. For example, say someone had a 10 gallon, heavily planted tank with four full-grown C. aeneus in there at three inches each. If their nitrates were very low, as in under 3ppm, then they could go ahead and add four more full-grown C. aeneus. By the old "inch per gallon rule", that 10 gallon tank would seem incredibly overstocked, with 24" of fish in it. But the tank isn't overstocked; the corys would be overjoyed to have the four extra buddies in there, and the water quality would still be excellent.

This would not be possible in an unplanted tank or a tank with only fake plants, as the nitrates would soon be off the charts, and probably even with only the original four corys in there. But plants absorb nitrates and other toxins, increasing the amount of fish that the tank is able to support.


Come to think of it, my store has some "C. paleatus" with black dorsal and pectoral fins like yours, maybe they are the new species as well and I should pick some up.

Good luck with your corys and their new buddies.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

Thought I'd share this reply with everyone Any thoughts on adding more Cory's??? I'll be going to my LFS soon for some other stuff, but if I get a reply before that... I'll get some more of them I'm also interested in Otocinclus for algae clean up in my 10 and 20 gal. Could someone give me any ideas for them please? Thanks

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Wow I'm shocked! they sure do look like a C. paleatus. Is this sort of variation due to an in breeding of Corydoras while kept in captivity?

I asked some other fish keeping friends for a fish ID and was told by them that they were certainly C. paleatus.

May I ask how you were able to tell this by looking at them if you don't mind? You see, I'm new (and loving it) to the wonderful world of owning and caring for Corydoras, and would really like to learn more about their kind and how to get the most out of them (for the fishes sake).

All but one of my new Cory's seems to be doing fine except for one. I noticed as I was acclimating them into their new home how one had very short, or next to no barbells. He (if in fact it is!) acts like he'd rather be on his own, out of site and hiding. But does come out to swim about now and then and eat. What would you suggest that I do? See how the little guy does and hope that they don't get any bacterial or fungul infection? Or return the one Cory and get a relacement?

I'm sorry if this email is rather loooooong winded, but like I said, in the fishes best interest.

I just have one last question. In my 20 gal. long I have it fairly planted (medium you could say) with a nice piece of bogwood with Java Fern and Moss tied to it, two rocks with some Java Moss on top and leaning on each other to make a pyramid shape for hiding. My live plants are Anacharis, Anubias 'Nana', Hornwort, Hygrophila Polysperma, Java Fern, Java Moss, Wisteria, and Marsh Pennywort. Current fish are one female Betta, two male Gourami's, one small Bala Shark (will be going to a new home soon), and a Bristlenose Pleco (that the Cory's love swimming all over lol). My tank has been fully cycled for 2 weeks now and water tests are normal. Only thing is my aquariums tempetature has to be lowered from 28^C to 26^C(it should be at 27^C now). What I'm wondering is, is it possible for me to get any more of these fish? The same or of some other variation of Corydoras? I don't overfeed my fish and they're great at cleaning up any leftovers, as well as regular water changes, so it shouldn't be to hard on the Bio-system.

Thanks again Ian

Regards

Jason


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Hi Jason,

What makes me think your fish are not the normal C. paleatus is the fact that, from what I can see in the picture, they have blackish pectoral and ventral fins and the tall dorsal fin. There are several species that all look similar in coloration to C. paleatus, ranging in size from a very small one with a max size of 35 mm body length, up to C. paleatus its self at 65 mm body length.

Your tank set up is ideal and more than capable of housing another 6 Corys.

Regards

Ian
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Well the Cory with the short barbells has died, he was floating on top still alive somewhat... so I had to put him to rest I had a feeling the little guy wasn't going to do so well.

I wouldn't be worried about the fish with short barbels, as they are common in stores. Cories with short barbels are either young, and haven't had time to grow them, or have been subjected to a tank with high nitrates, which causes the barbels to shorten through infection. Cory barbels will grow back if they have been damaged, as long as whatever condition damaged them has been removed. In other words, your cory's barbels will grow back if you have low nitrate levels.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

Went to my LFS yesterday and got a nice shoal of 6 of these fish I can't remember what he called them (it began with an A). When I was acclimating them I noticed one of them had shorter than normal barbells (almost none) and today he'd rather be on his own in the aquarium. I'll keep my eye out for him and watch how he's doing before I do any returning.

Could someone please ID this Cory for me? Thanks ahead of time



Last edited by bala shark at 04-Feb-2005 11:31

Here's a email reply (below) that I got from an Ian Fuller about the ID for my Cory. I thought that it would be good to get as many ID's as possible, and seeing that his specialty was Corydoras that would help as well... I wasn't asking him to second guess you guys But you were all right on the money when it came to ID'ing them

Ian has a interesting website. [link=http://corycats.com/]http://corycats.com/" style="COLOR: #000080[/link]

Still wondering if I'm able to get anymore Cory's for my aquarium Thanks.


On 4/2/05 5:40 pm, "Jay G" <wxmeso@yahoo.ca> wrote:


Hello Ian,

First off, great site! Very informative, and lots of great pictures.

Yesterday I was at my LFS and picked up a shoal of 6 of these Corydoras. But I can't for the life of me remember what they were called (it began with an A). I looked through some of the Cory pics that you have but can't really ID it.

I've attached an image of some of them feeding.

Thank you for any help that you can give.

Jason


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Hi Jason,

They are an as yet undescribed species from southern Bolivia/Argentina similar to C. paleatus. We are awaiting the publication of the new description, not sure when it will be.

Ian

That's good to know Cory Addict, thanks everyone I'm thinking of going back to the LFS where I did get them and let him know that they're not the "A" fish, and setting things straight for their benefit.

Question?! The one Cory that I mentioned having the very short barbell's, should I bring it back and ask for a replacement? I mean, I really don't want to bring any fish back, as I feel sorry for them being kept in these bare tanks. Maybe I'll wait and see how it does

I don't want this question to sound like I'm coming accross as being selfish, but with my 20 gal. can I keep any more of these little ones in there? Maybe another 2 or 4? (a differnt kind with the Peppered Cory's) It's a fairly well planted tank, with a nice piece of bogwood (has Java Fern and Moss attached to it), and a couple of rocks placed in a pyramid shape for hiding. I have 1 female Betta, 2 male Gourami's, 1 Bala Shark (that will be leaving soon), and a Bristlenose Pleco. I just can't understand why I didn't get Cory's sooner than I did, I'm really enjoying them

Thanks all!





Last edited by bala shark at 04-Feb-2005 19:25

Yep, those are C. paleteus, the peppered cory.

Decades of inbreeding has produced bad quality peppered corys in 90% of the shipments. They have poor color and very small fins. Your corys, however, appear to be wild-caught, judging by their colors and longer fins (and they are going to get longer).

Wild peppered corys are hard to come by. Nice find.

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I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.

That exactly what I have (one species) and when I bought them they were labeled peppered cory

Gee

Gee

!!I think I just learned somthing new!!

well, they look like Peppered corys




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Pictures would help... I'll give you a couple cories with "a" names that are a bit more common...

Cory Adolfoi

Cory Aeneus

Cory Agassizii

You can also go to Planet Catfish yourself and look in the cat-elog to see if you can figure it out. Good luck!

Edit: Right... I started replying before you put up the picture...

With pictures, I'd agree that they look like Peppered cories... Cory Palateus which isn't an "A" name at all. Ah well...



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~Meow. Thus spoke the cat.~

The pic wouldn't work the first time, so here it goes!

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