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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | if i cant have the zebras to:#( can i atleast have yo yos ![]() |
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poisonwaffle![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1397 Kudos: 591 Registered: 11-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | Most small bottom feeders (that I know of) are schooling fish, so you need more than 5 of them (preferably more). 10g's generally aren't big enough to keep a school of fish in... so yer basically out of luck with a 10g full of loaches or cories unless it's heavily planted, has a lot of hiding places, and gets a lot of waterchanges. Some may argue that Dwarf Cories would be fine... but they prefer large schools (like 15 minimum is what I've heard), and still wouldn't go in a 10g. I'd personally get a bigger tank if you want loaches and cories. 55g would be good...you could have 2 schools of 2 different kinds of cories (Peppered cories and Panda cories, for example)...and have more than the minimum number of the fish for the school, and then you'd actually get to see some personality show in the fish! I've got 2 schools of cories in my 29g...but I don't have as many cories as I'd like to have in there (they're still kinda shy because there's not enough of them)...and the bottom is rather crowded, so I can't get more. If you want some bottomfeeders in that 10g, you might want to try shrimp, ottos, or a snail or something that won't get very big ![]() |
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victimizati0n![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 1217 Kudos: 1105 Votes: 31 Registered: 29-Apr-2004 ![]() | kuhlii loaches get WAY bigger than 3" |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | ![]() ![]() what about 3 khulis and some corys ![]() Last edited by LOACHESRCOOL at 01-May-2005 23:05 |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | In a 10 gallon, you could have a group of kuhlis or a group of corys, not both. Not only is the bioload too much, but since both species are bottom dwellers, there is not enough space for each individual fish. ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | well what if i had 6 khulis and some corys those would be neat i want some with a good pattern tho and how many of those good i keep? |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | The inch per gallon rule is a bit to basic to be applied here. Kuhli are by no means equivalent in body mass or swimming space to say a 3-4" gourami or congo tetra. In my 55g I probably wouldn't even notice them but I definitely would notice 4 more congo tetras. Even without the kuhli loaches this setup has problems. Getting the more active loach species the number of fish it prefers and keeping the minimum swimming space it prefers is impossible with that size tank. The zebra loach and yoyos would both have the same problems and while 4 might work it's not ideal. A 20 is your best bet to keep happy loaches. |
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susiq![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 101 Kudos: 68 Votes: 4 Registered: 14-Mar-2005 ![]() ![]() | well zebra loaches get about 4 inches and kuli loaches about 3 inches... so.... 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 + = 24 GALLONS OF FISH IN A TEN GALLON .... yes the tank is over stocked... |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | the zebras im talkin about are called candy striped loaches as well is scientific name is botia striata |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | There are actually several loaches that get called the zebra loach but they all reach around 4" or bigger. The yoyo loach also gets 4". It might be possible to keep these guys as a group of 4 in a 10g if they are the only fish but they are quite active and would consider it a bit cramped. Also the ideal number would be 6 or more loaches which really would be pushing swimming space for these guys. The kuhli work in small tanks despite their length because they have a thinner body shape, bend more, and aren't nearly as active. It's not the biofilter I'm thinking of it's the actual space. I can way overstock a tank and still have no ammonia, nitrites, or much nitrate but that doesn't mean the fish are happy. My yoyos spend their days bouncing around the aquarium swimming circles around the heater/filter intakes, and generally never seem to sit still. You could get a 20g for not much more space or money. |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | is 3 zebra loaches and 6 khuli loaches overstocked i do 2 weekly water changes ![]() |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | dwarf loaches are bigger than a zebra loach and just as active zebras only get to 3 inches maybe four inches thats only 9 to 12 inches just the zebras and the khuli loaches are so small that theyd only add like 2 or3 inches to the bio load are u sure this isnt possible ![]() Last edited by LOACHESRCOOL at 29-Apr-2005 00:06 |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd substitute the Zebra Loaches for a group of three Botia sidthimunki, because the Zebra Loaches get too large and are too active for a 10 gallon tank. ![]() ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | yes they are the only fish in the tank well they will be hopefully i do 50 percent water changes and i havw sand so its easier to clean i hope this wqorks out I REALLY LOVE bottom feeders especially these ![]() |
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synodontis![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1403 Kudos: 2000 Votes: 1099 Registered: 02-Oct-2003 ![]() ![]() | welcome ![]() -------------------------- Billy was a scientist, Billy is no more. For what he thought was H20, was H2SO4 |
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jasonpisani![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 5553 Kudos: 7215 Votes: 1024 Registered: 24-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | It will be overstocked once the Zebra Loaches get bigger. It's better to return them to the LFS or get a bigger tank. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/s8xi5heh/my_photos http://www.deathbydyeing.org/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydoras/ Member of the Malta Aquarist Society - 1970. http://www.maltaaquarist.com |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | That tank would be overstocked with the loaches you mention. Zebra loaches grow too large for a ten gallon tank regardless of how many there are, and three to four kuhlis would be pushing it for bottom feeders. Though kuhli loaches are very thin, they do have the potential to reach four inches in length, and a ten gallon tank doesn’t give fish a lot of room to swim in. Luckily, kuhlis don’t need tons of space, and will tolerate a ten gallon as long as they have sufficient hiding places. I’d go with just three kuhlis, then work on adding some fish that inhabit the mid to upper la ![]() Welcome to Fish Profiles. ![]() |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | thanks for the welcome ![]() |
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LOACHESRCOOL![]() Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 ![]() ![]() | lol ![]() |
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fishyhelper288![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | first off i would like to know your tank size ![]() ![]() p.s. welcome to the site ![]() |
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