AquaRank.com

FishProfiles.com Message Forums

faq | etiquette | register | my account | search | mailbox
# FishProfiles.com Message Forums
L# Freshwater Species
 L# Bottom Feeder Frenzy
  L# Schooling Bottomfeeders for Mbuna?
 Post Reply  New Topic
SubscribeSchooling Bottomfeeders for Mbuna?
Inkling
*******
-----
Fish Addict
Posts: 689
Kudos: 498
Votes: 11
Registered: 07-Dec-2005
female usa
I have a 46g tank with 5x African Zebra Chichlids and a Rubberlipped Pleco. Are there any schooling bottom feeders that I could add?

Inky
Post InfoPosted 27-Mar-2006 04:32Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Report 
mrwizerd
********
---------------
Big Fish
Posts: 360
Kudos: 197
Votes: 75
Registered: 24-Oct-2005
male usa
EditedEdited by mrwizerd
At that size of a tank I would doubt it. Zebra Cichlids can get to be 6 or so inches and when mating are very aggressive/territorial. The rubber lipped pleco would get to only be 6+ inches from what I read but there are oddballs that get larger I am sure. To keep with African cichlids the best bottom feeders, depending on your needs would be larger loaches or jumbo cory. But your water settings would dictate what you could put in. But I know that people keep larger clown loaches with larger cichlids and if I were a cichlid I would steer clear of a 3-4+ inch cory cat. Other then that I don't know what else schools at the bottom of the tank. As always your major problem will be aggressiveness of your tank. For now the main thing your going to hear said about this post IME is you need more information on your tank and water before your going to get the best answers possible.

If my calculations are right, you would have ten extra gallons and I have kept peppered cory with zebra's they would kill anything smaller than an inch and a half or so and anything over would get harassed when it came close to its "area" but all and all they were fine but I am by far no expert on the zebra cichlid.
Post InfoPosted 27-Mar-2006 07:48Profile Homepage ICQ AIM MSN Yahoo PM Edit Delete Report 
Inkling
*******
-----
Fish Addict
Posts: 689
Kudos: 498
Votes: 11
Registered: 07-Dec-2005
female usa
I guess I should just leave them be then. Thanks for the info!

Inky
Post InfoPosted 27-Mar-2006 19:44Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Delete Report 
sham
*********
----------
Ultimate Fish Guru
Posts: 3369
Kudos: 2782
Votes: 98
Registered: 21-Apr-2004
female usa
Would fast loaches like yoyos work? The only cichlids I've kept were more peaceful SA cichlids and I had a johanni once. The johanni was quite agressive and the only thing I could keep him with were yoyo loaches. They were too fast and hyper for him to attack. By the time he turned around to go after them they were on the otherside of the tank. I finally found a different home for the johanni because he kept destroying things and the only heaters I could use were stealth heaters. Plus not being able to add any of the fish I wanted to the tank without him killing them off. Except the yoyos and I've never seen a fish manage to attack a yoyo loach. The only one that's even tried is the johanni.
Post InfoPosted 27-Mar-2006 22:38Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
Inkling
*******
-----
Fish Addict
Posts: 689
Kudos: 498
Votes: 11
Registered: 07-Dec-2005
female usa
Would loaches help with waste/alge in the tank?

Inky
Post InfoPosted 28-Mar-2006 01:42Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Delete Report 
Calilasseia
 
---------------
-----
*Ultimate Fish Guru*
Panda Funster
Posts: 5496
Kudos: 2828
Votes: 731
Registered: 10-Feb-2003
male uk
Don't know about 'schooling' but there are Rift Lake Synodontis that live alongside your Mbunas in the wild that might be a reasonable choice ...


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Post InfoPosted 28-Mar-2006 05:47Profile Homepage PM Edit Delete Report 
mrwizerd
********
---------------
Big Fish
Posts: 360
Kudos: 197
Votes: 75
Registered: 24-Oct-2005
male usa
Not algae your rubber nose pleco should do that for you, but I dont know if the yoyo's eat waste food, I know that they will eat snails and other live foods, they also eat flake so they may be ok with cleaning some waste food. If your zebras descide to mate you will end up with a lot of aggression towards anything in there domocile you may want to make sure that you little hiding places for whatever bottom feeder you do get so that they can get in but the big guys can not. Some of the larger cory would clean the bottom for you and are spiny so it would discourage them getting picked on but if one of the zebras decides its lunch you would end up with two dead fish most likley.
Post InfoPosted 28-Mar-2006 05:52Profile Homepage ICQ AIM MSN Yahoo PM Edit Delete Report 
sirbooks
 
**********
---------------
---------------
----------
Moderator
Sociopath
Posts: 3875
Kudos: 5164
Votes: 932
Registered: 26-Jul-2004
male usa us-virginia
Besides space and aggression issues, keep in mind that cichlids such as these prefer a very different type of water than many of the other fish discussed here- hard and alkaline with a fair amount of salts in the water. Corydoras, plecos, and loaches enjoy a softer and more acidic environment. Honestly, I wouldn't add any catfish besides maybe some smaller Synodontis which are inclined towards hard water. It would certainly be doable if there was heavy rockscaping in the tank which allowed for getaways in case the cichlids get nasty.



And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Post InfoPosted 28-Mar-2006 14:33Profile MSN PM Edit Delete Report 
Calilasseia
 
---------------
-----
*Ultimate Fish Guru*
Panda Funster
Posts: 5496
Kudos: 2828
Votes: 731
Registered: 10-Feb-2003
male uk
Further checking : Synodontis nyassae hails from the same waters as your Mbunas.

Here's the Planet Catfish page on the species:

Synodontis nyassae

As it lives alongside Mbuna in the wild, it's probably your most compatible catfish choice.


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Post InfoPosted 28-Mar-2006 15:44Profile Homepage PM Edit Delete Report 
mrwizerd
********
---------------
Big Fish
Posts: 360
Kudos: 197
Votes: 75
Registered: 24-Oct-2005
male usa
Nice fish, it's also a good size for that tank. It should help with clean up so I think you will be good with it also. Wonder what there avalibility is though.
Post InfoPosted 29-Mar-2006 02:20Profile Homepage ICQ AIM MSN Yahoo PM Edit Delete Report 
Inkling
*******
-----
Fish Addict
Posts: 689
Kudos: 498
Votes: 11
Registered: 07-Dec-2005
female usa
I always thought they needed more room? I thought thier min. tank size was a 75g?

Inky
Post InfoPosted 29-Mar-2006 19:17Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Delete Report 
Post Reply  New Topic
Jump to: 

The views expressed on this page are the implied opinions of their respective authors.
Under no circumstances do the comments on this page represent the opinions of the staff of FishProfiles.com.

FishProfiles.com Forums, version 11.0
Mazeguy Smilies