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Hey! I only gave my personal opinion, i wasn't telling anyone else that they had to do what i do.

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Yep, the link worked.
It is indeed a Rubbernose Pleco.
Your variety is a Spotted Rubbernose,
species name is Chaetosomus Milesi.

They grow to 4 inches maybe 5.
I have seen 4 inch specimens.

Heres the link to the profile on here:

http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/profiles/bulldog.xml

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He's (I'm calling he a he as my daughter named him Clifford) has been grazing on what little algae I have in my tank and nibbling on algae wafers and shrimp pellets I leave near the mouth of his "cave." He came out for a rare appearance for the photo I linked to below. I'm going to try a link to an album at snapfish.com...forgive me if it doesn't work!

EDIT #1: The link seems to be working for me...

A confirmation of the Rubber Lipped Pleco identification would be appreciated, if that's possible from the markings seen! Thanks!

EDIT #2: Disregard the link...it now doesn't seem to want to work without entering my personal username and password...is there any way to link to it with accessing a user's account? Is there another site that is simpler to use or easier to link to? Thanks!

http://www.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=36136643/PictureID=1050513617/a=43011556_43011556/=_=43011556

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Rubbernose plecos are cute. They come from fast flowing waters of south americas highlands.
They are primarily vegitarians but enjoy some meaty foods
from time to time.
They grow to about 4 inches.


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After doing a little research and reading the comments in this thread, I purchased what was labeled at the local pet superstore as a Rubber Lipped Pleco. I can't find any detailed information on this particular species online and the closest thing I can find here at the website is the Rubbernose/Bulldog Pleco. It is identical to the photo shown in the profiles section with the exception of vertical stripes on the sides of the tail in place of the spots like those covering the rest of the body. It was only about 1.5 inches when purchased and I find it hard to believe that it would get as large as the specifications on the Rubbernose/Bulldog species. Does anyone have either of these species at home that they can tell me more about or are there any pictures I can compare it to? It is currently sharing a 10 gallon tank with 1 male/2 female swordtails with plans to upgrade to a 30 gallon model in the next month or so. Thanks!

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"In my opinion, i never worry about overstocking the tank, i'm not very cautous about that, i just get how ever many i want and get plenty to make the tank look cool. I would also suggest some type of cory, i'm not sure what the name of this one is, but they have a black spot on their dorsal fin, and are speckled with black specks, i think those are cool, and none of mine have even died yet."

I agree with reun. You need to carefully plan your aquariums. The smaller the aquarium is the more careful you have to be if you want your fish to live. 4 Swords would definitly be too much for a 10g. Perhaps mixing 1 sword and a few plattys would give a simular effect?


Hey, what about Panda Cories?

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Girliegirl,

There is nothing wrong with keeping corys in a 10 gallon tank, smaller breeds can be quite happy in a small tank. In this case I would suggest Corydoras habrosus or Corydoras pygmaeus.

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Swordtails are too big for a 10g tank.
They grow to be 5 inches or more.
They need a tank at least 30g in my opinion.
For bottom feeders in a 10g, I would recommend
either Cory Hasbrosus, Ottos, or Shrimp.


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for my 10 gal i have a small pleco i feed him cucumber and some pellets.

if i were you id get 5 pygmy cories. i wouldnt worry about this overstocking b/c cories stay at the bottom of the tank and swordtails stay at the top, so they wouldnt feel overcrowded . (i dont know if swordtails actually stay at the top, but from what ive seen at the LFS, the majority of the time they are at the top)

I wouldn't put a small pleco in a 10g either. They produce alot of waste. I am constantly cleaning up after the BN in my 55g and would hate to do that in a 10g. He would just look crowded in there.
My opinion...if you want bottom feeders...get a bigger tank. You could have small cories in a 20g.
Some of the cories in my 55g (sodalis and trilineatus) are pretty inactive. They do chase each other every now and then and run and hide when I get too close...so i couldn't imagine them in a small 10g. I am sure lots of people keep cories in a 10g, but I wouldn't try it. I like my little guys to have lots of space. Especially since some cories can get almost 3 inches.
Pandas are too sensitive and active. Maybe you could have pygmy cories...not sure how they are in small tanks. That would be the only cory I suggest though.

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I have a new 10 gallon tank that is getting close to completing it's initial cycle. I currently have 2 swordtails ("red", I believe) in it with plans to add probaly no more than 2 more (3 females, 1 male total). Beyond that, if appropriate, I'd like to incorporate a small bottom feeder of some sort but have concerns over it 1)being alone, 2)having enough space and 3)getting along with it's neighbors. Can anyone recommend a good species for the parameters I have set? Thanks!

In my opinion, i never worry about overstocking the tank, i'm not very cautous about that, i just get how ever many i want and get plenty to make the tank look cool. I would also suggest some type of cory, i'm not sure what the name of this one is, but they have a black spot on their dorsal fin, and are speckled with black specks, i think those are cool, and none of mine have even died yet.

holy crap...do you work at a major chainm petstore by chance? those are the only type of people i have ever heard have such harmfull attitude.

i think some oscars would look cool in my 5 gallon. i should add them cause it looks cool according to you.

wow...

to the OP...get a small catfish, one that stays under 3" preferably. i would say dont add any more swordtails, keep the two you have and get a small dwarf pleco, as in a rubberlip or bristlenose pleco. a south american bumblebee catfish, or any other bottom feeder that stays around or under 3" for a ten gallon and is not hyper active like a loach. corys stay small but prefer groups, and i would say you need at least 3 of the same type of cory for them to be content, more than 5 for them to be happy, which they will never be happy in a 10 gallon anyway.

by over loading your tank, unless you do twice a week water changes you will most likely have an ommonia overflow in the tank, causing all your fish to die. if you want to overstock, be prepared for listless,agressive,or generally unhappy and sickly fish.

Last edited by sirbooks at 20-Jan-2006 17:57

I don't think cories belong in a 10g tank. They need a group...preferably 4-6 and most get too large for a 10g. Ottos are your best bet, even though they are algae eaters. They need an established tank and some algae to eat. If you upgraded to a 20g, you could have a group of small cories.

Snails are a good suggestion, just be careful if you have plants. Some types like to eat plants.

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If you get Corydoras, just get the smallest species that you can get & remember, that they like to stay in schools of at least 6 of the same species.


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OH! And for the cories, i would get a couple.

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In my opinion, i never worry about overstocking the tank, i'm not very cautous about that, i just get how ever many i want and get plenty to make the tank look cool. I would also suggest some type of cory, i'm not sure what the name of this one is, but they have a black spot on their dorsal fin, and are speckled with black specks, i think those are cool, and none of mine have even died yet.

Hope your tank turns out to be successful!


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Otos are great if there is some degree of algae in your tank. I doubt there is in yours, however, as it is newly established. Did you ever think of corys? They are small, easy to keep, active in the daytime, and harmless. I would get three.

Be careful, ottos need an aged tank with algae already established. My tank is 7 months old and the back wall had never been scrubbed of algae, and only now am I adding ottos.

dwarf sucking loach (otto)