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Last I checked, at least in a hundred pounds in most sensible places. Looks as if I'm going to be stuck with a trio for a while.


Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 08-Jun-2005 19:17

Not to mention expensive... don't they cost upwards of seventy pounds in the U.K.?

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Cute indeed.

try the zebra pleco, it's very cute and stays very small.

Well, heres a couple more suggestions I thought up for you.
How about a Clown Pleco - they eat meaty diets rather than algae, and would be very content at eating leftover food, as long as you could supplement its diet with a little peice of driftwood (could be quite small and hideable if you dont want DW in your tank). They stay quite small too as plecos go- I think 4 inches is about max for them.

Or, how about Botia Sidthimunki- the dwarf chain loach? If you can find them, they are becoming extinct, so any possiblity of people keeping them and them maybe breeding would be very good. They stay very small, im not sure exact size, but my bet is less than 2 inches.

Another option for loaches would be Polka Dot Botia, also known as Myanmar Botia, or Angelicus Botia. They are gorgeous fish! I have one and hope to find others one day. They are not common in my area, but common elsewhere.
They are a slow growing botia, and max out at just a little less than 4 inches, and unlike botia such as YOYO's, are very calm and slower moving. Beautiful gorgeous fish.

A pair or trio of Upside Down catfish would probably work for you as well, as long as you could provide them places to hang out under, like large leaved plants or driftwood, or rocks. They are very cool, neat catfish than dont grow larger than about 4 inches as well.
I paid a small fortune for my pair. Awesome fish and great bottom feeders and scavengers.


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mainly something to clean up waste, will worry about algae eatersif it lookslike it may become a problem, i intebd on keeping the tank quite lightly stocked.
thinking my best option would be one of the smaller loach species, and provide them with some cover for protection if they need it.
any recomendations?

Last edited by hembo666 at 06-Jun-2005 16:02

Are you looking for a certain type of bottom feeder in particular? For instance, do you want fish that will feed on leftover foods, or does that not matter?

If not, maybe some type of small pleco. Though they spend plenty of time off the bottom (like on the glass), they'll still hang out on the bottom plenty. Certain species will eat algae, which is a plus.

If you do need something to eat leftover food, are you willing to go with small loaches? I don't know exactly how they'll do with your serpaes, but you can at least give them a shot.

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i think the main problem is finding something small enough to be comfortable in the 15g but capable of defending itself, the other problem is that becauseof its design (built into the bottom of a cabinet for the main tank) its impossible to fit a tight lid, so most critters and snails are not an option, unless there is a snail that wont leave the water at all.

C. perugiae is not a beginner's catfish. I am currently at three members (had six, four died, bought another) due to an unfortunate sequence of events. A shoal of p. axelrodi "brazil" were in the hospital tank to the left of my twenty high, and as luck would have it, one jumped from the 15 gallon hospital being treated for ich and the 20 tall. Well, there is a reason why this fish is known as the delicate oil catfish; because, frankly, it is one. Copper meds will kill them nearly on contact, and under stressful conditions they will rapidly break out in fungus. Even in perfect water conditions, fish can break out in fungus (reputedly). The last three are currently fat and happy and ich free.

Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 04-Jun-2005 01:30

What about a different type of Catfish?
I saw some neat ones called "Oil Wood Catfish" at the LFS, but I know nothing about them. I think someone on here keeps them.
Also, how about something like a Raphael Catfish, or a Banjo Catfish, or something along those lines that would be safe with your nasty nippy tetras.
Again, I am not sure if those could be kept in a 15g, but Im sure someone in here can recommend something for you.


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there lies the problem, i moved the serpae from my main tank because they were nipping the cories in there.

A group of Cories should work quite nicely. Great beginner catfish.

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