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Oh and I'd love to know what they are...silly me didn't pay attention to the ID information :%) ....I'll do better next weekend (thank's to the parentals that got me a 1 year memebership ).

^_^


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Not mine, but I figured you'd all appreacieat them...they're from the National Aquarium in Baltimore...I would have shot more but the family was getting a bit on the "let's go" side of things...

^_^


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gotta be the best looking blue diamond around i am going to buy the lonely blue diamond today and putting him in quarenteen he is only 3in so will he be alright in a 20g i am also getting all the other tanks today a 40g a 120g and a 150g so i will be having fun setting them up

thanx for all the info trace

from neil martin:%)]
:88)

6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank
30+ royal pythons.

Back in the game after 4 years out ..

about the stripes: one thing you guys missed is that it may differ from one strain of fish to another. For example, Heckel discus (my favorite) have stripes when content and lose them when stressed (like angels). However Discus such as Marlboro, Red Tourquise, et cetera, are without stripes when contempt and with them when stressed.

I have noticed this in discus and the closely related angelfish (also, not too many people know how closely related they are!!!! fyi). My wild and wild colored/zebra angelfish have stripes when happy, and don't when scarred, but my golden angels do not have stripes, but do when stressed. So the thing is not if they have stripes when happy or sad , but what strain they are.

[link=http://fff.corydorasworld.com/gallery/Fishboy ]http://fff.corydorasworld.com/gallery/Fishboy [/link]


The pics of my discus are in the photo gallery.




[span class="edited"][Edited by Fishboy14 2004-03-17 12:47][/span]

another as the last pic looks shocking
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Fire mouth boy,

here is the pic you wanted to see of my blue diamond.

Trace
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got no pics of mine at the moment, but i have one wild lake tefe green discus and 3 red turqs (still young around 2"

Thanks trace, I did the trial basis, will get full "premie" this week. I got the "turk" online, they were advertised as "royal blue" which is a misnomer, as they were asian bred. But they are beautiful. Now I just need a bigger tank!

I love my ram!


[span class="edited"][Edited by techjak 2004-03-12 10:28][/span]

NOW IT'S FOR REAL!:88)

[span class="edited"][Edited by techjak 2004-03-13 21:12][/span]

Hi Jack,

nice healthy looking Discus. Your pigeon wont show the stripes, but your turk will.

I love Blue rams especially in full colour. Welcome to the "premie" side of FP by the way.

Trace

heres a better pic of him
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Here's a pic of them both...notice the stripes visible on one of the royal blues but not the other.
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Here's one of the new "royal" blues:
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The above is a red pigeon blood, here's another pic:
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Here are a few pics on my discus.
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Oh well, didn't know that..

Angels are the opposite, they lose their stripes when stressed. My silver turns almost ...well...silver

Got to agree with Trace-Russ with the stripes being a good primary indicator of stress. Discus use the stripes as signals as well though, my red turk pair for instance, the female shows the last three stripes when she is ready to lay eggs, as soon as I see those I know she'll place eggs within 12hrs.
With the younger discus showing the stripes more, I think its maybe something to do with camouflage, blending into roots etc?
With the wild strains, gotta agree that they are nice, breeder in my area had some Tefe's delivered last month, all I could do to stop myself drooling.
Cheers

Kenny

[span class="edited"][Edited by Kenny 2004-03-10 04:54][/span]

Me2...It makes them even more beautifull... But I really, really doubt it's due to stress

[span class="edited"][Edited by ThunderBolt 2004-03-09 09:38][/span]

With my discus, it seems that the stripes are more visible in certain lighting and less in other. Wild discus have the stripes all the time and attempts have been made (successfully) to breed the stripes out and obtain a solid colored fish. Personally, I like the stripes as they add character to the fish.

OMG! I thought it was the other way around!!

They show 'em when they cruise around, and when something scary happens, when my sis smack the door ect. They take the stripes away!

whaa!!!!!

EDIT: My angelfish did that aswell!

[span class="edited"][Edited by ThunderBolt 2004-03-09 09:10][/span]

Those stripes you are refering to are stress bars, that show up when the Discus are not happy or prob in your case the new enviromnent.

Younger discus tend to show the bars a lot more than older Discus. Why I dont know maybe someone can tell us???

Trace

They look very much like mine, but yours dont have the stripes..

Have a look at mine http://community.webshots.com/user/apache_pilot

Although these aren't discus, they are in my tank as well. (It's also used as my avatar). Blue ram male with cardinals.
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Hi Thunderbolt,

The discus that shines in the middle is a male Blue turk that is getting really clucky at the moment whooooo, as I have a female blue turk that he spends lots of time with.

Trace

At the 4th pic, theres one that shines in the middle, what kind of discus is that? Got some of them too, but not the name


[span class="edited"][Edited by ThunderBolt 2004-03-07 15:37][/span]

Hi Tom,

Yeah the lawnmower Discus is a new breed I'm working on Hey looking forward to seeing your pics guys.

Trace

Great pics, I'll post some of mine as soon as I can...gotta figure out this new camera!

ive never seen a lawn mower discus before!

Very nice trace..

more juvies this is one white swan and a pigeon blood both about 3inches

[span class="edited"][Edited by trace-russ 2004-03-07 04:11][/span]
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My community display tank ( with the peat in the filter)
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lets try again
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These are my juvies with my snow white and white swans

Trace

oops for got pic

[span class="edited"][Edited by trace-russ 2004-03-07 04:06][/span]

Here are the wrigglers

Trace
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Yup, looks like wild browns to me. Prolly somewhere like Rio Negro. Way cool! Drool!

Here are my discus. These are pictures of my BIG discus mostly seen I was asking some questions about him after I got him, he was acting a little weird..

http://www.jt-imports.com/Discus_Pics.htm


[span class="edited"][Edited by JT_in_Japan 2004-08-11 02:16][/span]

My discus.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/144819726/172672366xoRxPg

[span class="edited"][Edited by Gauntlet 2004-08-08 15:10][/span]

To clarify on the stripes issue.

The reason both angelfish and discus, and other cichlids show stripes is essentially for camouflage. These fish are found in habitats rich in plants like vallis so the vertical stripes allow them to blend in very well with the background. Their bodyshape is also very suitable for swiming amoung the long leaves of these plants.
Many people say that they only show up when the fish are stressed. This is not quite true. Certainly the gene that promotes the stripes is activated at times of stress, and ill health, but they are also activated when the fish is gravid or if a predator is around or if the lighting is too intense etc.
The reason the stripes are being bred out of the discus commercially is that there is no selection in the tank for the genetically fittest. In the wild the fish with the strongest stripes would be genetically "fitter" as this is advantagous to there survival and so they also tend to live longer, thus keeping a large gene pool of strong stripes. In the commercial breeding of discus however, the fish are kept in bare tanks with no such sort of vegetation so the dicus cannot distinguish between the fittest fish. The stripes and the gene are present in every fish, it's just the ones that dont show have a very weak gene for this adaption.

Hi there,

Will look forward to seeing your PB.

Trace

Hi Trace,

Looking at all these beautiful pictures makes me very sad and envious.
I now have only the one discus and he is (I think) a pigeon blood. I had a red turquoise and a neon blue. Oh well, maybe once I know it's safe to add discus to the tank again, I will.

I would send picture, however, I'm not sure how to do it. I will try and see if I can figure it out tomorrow and send picture of all the fish in the tank.

Here's a photo I took this morning. Still dont know how not to get the flash showing. LOL
jacquie loves discus attached this image:
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Here are my babies before they got sick. Not worked out how to get no flash on the tank yet
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Yeah, the colorations tend to be a bit confusing. The blue turks I have were listed as "Royal blues". Oh well, they are still beautiful and doing fine so far.

thanks techjak! i was only unsure because he was for sale in the LFS as a blue discus!

Definately looks like a red turk to me. Beautiful fish.

ive managed to get a few pics of my tank and one of the discus, they are both camera shy. The one not pictured always darts away whenever i get close and the only pics i have got he is all dark and horrible. These pics were also taken before i realised i had a mineral deficiency in my tank so some of the plants look a bit raggid.
Is this discus a Red Turq? i have been unable to find another picture that will identify him. Thanks for looking! (sorry the pics are of poor quality)
http://community.webshots.com/user/tomsouthall1

well heres a really bad ic of my 2" red turquoise

whoa i didn'y attach a pic hmm oh well ill have to get another pic of it

[span class="edited"][Edited by Megil Tel'valar 2004-03-26 23:30][/span]

Hi there,

Hows about showing off your Discus and lets post some pics.

Trace

Below are my breeding pair with eggs, that have just hatched today.

[span class="edited"][Edited by trace-russ 2004-03-06 21:13][/span]
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wild browns by the looks of it. can't tell you place of origin though.

Oh and I'd love to know what they are...silly me didn't pay attention to the ID information :%) ....I'll do better next weekend (thank's to the parentals that got me a 1 year memebership ).

^_^


Babelfish attached this image:
[img]http://www.fishprofiles.net/attachments/313475.jpg"]

Not mine, but I figured you'd all appreacieat them...they're from the National Aquarium in Baltimore...I would have shot more but the family was getting a bit on the "let's go" side of things...

^_^


Babelfish attached this image:
[img]http://www.fishprofiles.net/attachments/313474.jpg"]

gotta be the best looking blue diamond around i am going to buy the lonely blue diamond today and putting him in quarenteen he is only 3in so will he be alright in a 20g i am also getting all the other tanks today a 40g a 120g and a 150g so i will be having fun setting them up

thanx for all the info trace

from neil martin:%)]
:88)

6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank
30+ royal pythons.

Back in the game after 4 years out ..

about the stripes: one thing you guys missed is that it may differ from one strain of fish to another. For example, Heckel discus (my favorite) have stripes when content and lose them when stressed (like angels). However Discus such as Marlboro, Red Tourquise, et cetera, are without stripes when contempt and with them when stressed.

I have noticed this in discus and the closely related angelfish (also, not too many people know how closely related they are!!!! fyi). My wild and wild colored/zebra angelfish have stripes when happy, and don't when scarred, but my golden angels do not have stripes, but do when stressed. So the thing is not if they have stripes when happy or sad , but what strain they are.

[link=http://fff.corydorasworld.com/gallery/Fishboy ]http://fff.corydorasworld.com/gallery/Fishboy [/link]


The pics of my discus are in the photo gallery.




[span class="edited"][Edited by Fishboy14 2004-03-17 12:47][/span]

another as the last pic looks shocking
trace-russ attached this image:
[img]http://www.fishprofiles.net/attachments/307594.jpg"]

Fire mouth boy,

here is the pic you wanted to see of my blue diamond.

Trace
trace-russ attached this image:
[img]http://www.fishprofiles.net/attachments/307593.jpg"]

got no pics of mine at the moment, but i have one wild lake tefe green discus and 3 red turqs (still young around 2"

Thanks trace, I did the trial basis, will get full "premie" this week. I got the "turk" online, they were advertised as "royal blue" which is a misnomer, as they were asian bred. But they are beautiful. Now I just need a bigger tank!

I love my ram!


[span class="edited"][Edited by techjak 2004-03-12 10:28][/span]

NOW IT'S FOR REAL!:88)

[span class="edited"][Edited by techjak 2004-03-13 21:12][/span]

Hi Jack,

nice healthy looking Discus. Your pigeon wont show the stripes, but your turk will.

I love Blue rams especially in full colour. Welcome to the "premie" side of FP by the way.

Trace