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Fallout![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | Try to buy the most pure as possible. Not good enough. Pure or leave it on the shelf. |
Daniel![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 600 Kudos: 524 Votes: 12 Registered: 25-Jul-2002 ![]() | Not urine, ammonia. it has nothing to do with using your tank as a toilet.]:| |
oz196![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 328 Kudos: 119 Votes: 15 Registered: 09-Dec-2002 ![]() | SONGBIRD, correct me if I am worng you climbed up a ladder and added 1 teaspoon of urine to your tank. Now that would be some what easy for a guy, but you are a girl (right). where you worried about falling in?????????? I am courious how you did it??????? |
Fishguy101![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 105 Kudos: 170 Votes: 0 Registered: 30-Jun-2004 ![]() | clear ammoina from wal-mart has softened water, ammoina and a chelating agent. |
Bignose![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 110 Kudos: 81 Registered: 28-Jun-2004 ![]() | What you are looking for is 1) NO surfactants 2) NO DYES 3) NO Perfumes It should be Ammonium Hydroxide or Ammonium Hydroxide plus water...nothing else. If it does not fit that criteria then it cannot be used. There may be an ingrediant called a 'chelating agent', which IS safe. It is added to to ensure the solid does not precipitate out of solution. If the explicit ingrediants are not listed, a trick is to shake it ... if it foams it has added surfactants and is no good. On a personal note, here in Indiana it was a bugger of a time to find pure ammonia. No doubt it has something to do with the fact that our state is one of the highest producers of crystal meth. |
mattyboombatty![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Tenellus Obsessor Posts: 2790 Kudos: 1507 Votes: 1301 Registered: 26-Mar-2004 ![]() | I wonder how he did control that well enough to fill just a tablespoon....on a ladder no less. Must be superman. I did this with the non-everything stated above stuff from wal-mart as well. Worked perfectly. Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients |
songbird1963![]() Enthusiast Posts: 238 Votes: 0 Registered: 09-Apr-2004 ![]() | This is from The Skeptical Aquarist.....probably where you read it from. Household "ammonia" is a fairly dilute solution of ammonium hydroxide with some "quality control" agents. To avoid the perfumes, sudsing agents and dyes in consumer-type ammonia cleaning products, look for a generic brand from a hardware store. But don't hunt for a stronger solution: if you go above about 5ppm ammonia at any point, you'll only delay the completing of your "cycle." I raised some eyebrows when I revealed in a web forum that I hadn't been ransacking my neighborhood in a search for a pure non-sudsing ammonia with no added dyes and perfumes, when I could always produce at least a few drops of a completely natural, though more personal, source of ammonia. The truth is, long before the nitrating cycle was community knowledge, I have always begun new planted aquaria by adding a few tablespoons of my urine. Good grief! The uproar at AquariaCentral sent me back to the books. I soon found out that urine actually has a very small NH3 content. Urine has a specific gravity of about 1.017-1.020, owing to its dissolved solids, about 60% of which are organic substances. Besides ammonia, those organics include urea, uric acid, and creatine, which are all bacterially decomposed to form carbon dioxide-- and more ammonia. The other 40% of the dissolved solids in urine are inorganic Na, Cl, (the "salt" content), K, PO4 and SO4. Frankly, it all sounds to me like stuff you'd be adding anyway. There are no bacteria in healthy urine. Nevertheless, people at the forum were more appalled than I could ever have expected. Some expressed their squeamishness in terms of "dangers." As far as I could tell, the greatest danger in this technique is of falling off the stepladder (heh heh heh). I was disappointed that no one asked how I had the control to fill just one tablespoon! |
Calilasseia![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003 ![]() | Obtain Ammonium Hydroxide in powder form from an analytical reagent suppliers for best results. Purity is guaranteed. |
jake![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 594 Kudos: 875 Votes: 2 Registered: 21-Mar-2004 ![]() | What you are looking for is 1) NO surfactants 2) NO DYES 3) NO Perfumes It should be Ammonium Hydroxide or Ammonium Hydroxide plus water...nothing else. If it does not fit that criteria then it cannot be used. |
fish1![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 1727 Kudos: 1910 Votes: 58 Registered: 09-May-2004 ![]() | wow what an idoit!!!! but you have to relize thats kinda funny what a jerk!~ |
Fishguy101![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 105 Kudos: 170 Votes: 0 Registered: 30-Jun-2004 ![]() | Does anyone know of anystore that sells this stuff??? I have been to 3 and none have it. |
victimizati0n![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 1217 Kudos: 1105 Votes: 31 Registered: 29-Apr-2004 ![]() | heh, I was thinking about that "I wonder what would happen if I peed in the tank? it would probably start to cycle it" But i would NEVER do that though. |
Gomer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002 ![]() | Human urine will not cycle a tank very successfully. It has little ammonia in it, the main nitrogenous waste which our body excretes is urea, unlike fish, which excrete ammonia. ![]() Clear ammonia or cloudy ammonia are the products you should be looking for. Just make sure you read the label closely, and note if there is any additives in the product as you do not want to use one which is scented. Try to buy the most pure as possible. -- Gomer |
Fishguy101![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 105 Kudos: 170 Votes: 0 Registered: 30-Jun-2004 ![]() | Just got "clear" ammonia from wal-mart. Going to start cycling. |
Toirtis![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1260 Kudos: 529 Votes: 6 Registered: 24-Feb-2003 ![]() | Try a lab supply.....as pure as it gets. |
Bleeder![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 739 Kudos: 50 Registered: 16-Apr-2001 ![]() | Talking about Ammonia, has anyone ever read a story about a guy peeing into his tank to cycle it? I have lost the link to that article, but it sure as hell made me !Bleeder's Forum http://silentlucidity.s10.forumsplace.com |
FMZ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 271 Kudos: 503 Votes: 5 Registered: 30-Jul-2002 ![]() | Goto walmart and get a bottle of Clear Ammonia. It cost 97 cents and it has a purple wrap on it. Hope this help |
Daniel![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 600 Kudos: 524 Votes: 12 Registered: 25-Jul-2002 ![]() | its kinda hard to find. I have a gallon tub of it. I got it at like some dollar general. Its hard to find pure ammonia, but fishless cycling is very easy... |
sly![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 377 Kudos: 251 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Jun-2004 ![]() | I got a bottle of CLear Ammonia at my grocery store. |
victimizati0n![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 1217 Kudos: 1105 Votes: 31 Registered: 29-Apr-2004 ![]() | any grocery store should have it. Try maby Home Depot, or something like that. |
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